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International TD-14

Discussion in 'Dozers' started by Spud_Monkey, Jan 12, 2021.

  1. Spud_Monkey

    Spud_Monkey Senior Member

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    Found a International TD-14 for $2000 and was looking to fix it up enough for working my property. I own about 50 plus acres in hilly terrain and was wondering if this dozer will handle the job and be straight forward dozer to work on. Anyone have history with these and should I save my money for something more new or smaller/larger?
    From what I see the sprocket teeth look bit sharp in pictures but I think it will be fine. Not trying to run a construction company with it just for property use. Comes with brush hog attachment also.
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    I love your determination. You are not scared away easily, you dig in and get **** done though sometimes I think you should turn and run. You must really hate yourself to continually inflict such torture ;)

    BTW I seek out your posts and read with great respect of what your able to accomplish.
     
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    You must be following my posts to know of such torture, I just don't know what else to do with life as I would go nuts doing nothing.
     
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    14 is a beast. Parts would be a challenge.
    Personally I would try and find a Cat as they have better support.
    However the price of the 14 seems right.
     
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    I you're familiar with starting and stopping the engine on these tractors. If you don't you may become certifiable :D
     
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    The problem is going to be if you have a bearing go in the rear, and chew up a final drive. I would think even finding a well worn used final, would be difficult.

    I'm sure the bushings and pins and such are well worn in the blade, but so what? it would likely last for what you want to do. A look at the pins in the tracks, would tell you if there's enough left of the undercarriage that you wouldn't walk the tracks off every time you turn.

    My uncle had a old cable dozer when I was a kid, he always said it was a workout for your arm running winch up and down. Just replace the cable before it breaks.

    If you just want to run one to destruction to get done what you need, it isn't a big investment. If you want to fix everything that goes wrong, you would be far better served with a cat simply for parts availability.

    I think if I was wanting to clear your property and the other things you want to do, I would be much more interested in a track loader than a dozer. I think a track loader would be so much better for pushing brush, digging your earth home, loading and unloading thing/ lifting service.

    If I was living in the middle of nowhere, and wanted to be able to take care of my own property, I'd be looking for one of the old Deere track loaders with a rear mounted backhoe. It wouldn't do everything as well/fast as a dedicated excavator/dozer/backhoe/CTL, but there's not much of that kind of work, that you couldn't get done with it. Even better if it had a 4 in 1 up front. Dig water lines, push dirt, make your roads. Do it all with one piece of equipment.



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    If I can find one as pictured I will grab it though seems best to look for a JD, Allis or a Case from what read on the consensus.https://www.machinerytrader.com/listings/construction-equipment/for-sale/198682617/1990-deere-455g
     
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    I have a Cat 931B with a 4 in 1 bucket and a backhoe. Other than the hoe using a rotary cylinder for swing it's a very versatile machine. Hoe has good digging power but is best to take it off if doing a lot of loader work. It is very heavy hanging off the back. One thing that I agree with Cat is they have the most reliable transmissions, either 3F/1R or 3F/3R. The 931B backhoes do use the rotary swing cylinder but are better than the older 931 backhoes that used a rack and pinion style swing. I had to get the shaft for the rotary cylinder spray welded because it leaked on the seal surface but the seals and O-rings for the end caps were readily available. The vanes and internal seals they say to contact dealer for availability but they were still in good shape and were reused.

    I think the later JD's like the 455G CO posted above are very good machines with the twin cylinder swing. I'd worry about parts for older JD's like the C series but there could be some decent older machines out there. It also looks like the G series backhoe is similar to Cat in that it uses the same seat for loader and backhoe. Older JD's had a flip down seat for running the hoe that I think could get a little annoying. My seat back flips from one side to the other. A bit of a pain climbing over the machine instead of getting on and off but certainly doable. It also lets you operate the transmission when using hoe doing a trench or pulling yourself out when stuck. A separate seat you wouldn't be able to reach the transmission control. I keep thinking I should make some kind of extension arms so I could operate the steering pedals when using the hoe.
     
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    I have a backhoe already, guess a 4 in 1 crawler loader is what I need instead.
     
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    4 in 1 bucket is good for some things but I found it a hazard when clearing brush. Branches and roots tended to get behind the bucket and destroy the steel hyd. lines. Even lumps of dirt will fall over the back of the bucket on the hydraulic hoses which can pull down on the steel lines. Had I known I would have made some kind covers to fully enclose all the steel lines. I think some other machines have the lines better protected.
     
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    The TD14 engine is basically a TD9 engine with 2 added cylinders. My book says only 399 engines were ever built. Many engine parts were shared with the TD9 but you will probably never find a crank, block or injection pump if you ever hatch them.
     
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    Interesting that the 931B seat flips back to use the hoe. My earlier straight 931 with 4N1 and hoe has a seat that spins around. Flip must have been cheaper to make!
     
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    I always wondered if there was enough room to actually swivel around sitting in the seat on a 931. Swivel seat would be nicer than climbing over or having to get off and then on again. My wooden seat base rotted out and was no longer available from Cat but I found an upholstery shop that made a new bottom seat complete with base with the insets for the bolts. Cost around $200 but my measurements were off for the bolts because the mounting plates flopped around on the machine. They took measurements from what was left of the old seat base and installed the inserts in both locations. Good thing they did and it bolted right on.
     
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    looks like a td18 with the twin exhausts 14 only has one 18 is a six banger 14 is 4.
     
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    Looking at the engine it sure does look more of a 6 than a 4 banger.
     
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    well, i liked the pictures and the price may be reasonable, but i think its more of a museum piece or an addition to a collector fleet
     
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    Or if you already have one and need parts lol. Yeah I'm going different direction of what I need and not want. Thanks for the insight as I get closer to purchase if something I will ask more on the next find.
     
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    Spent nearly eight years flopping around on a Orphan Machine, won't do it again.
     
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    fortunately its not near me I'd probably go have a look
     
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    Did they make a change during the TD14 run. There is a old stretched one that sets in the woods near Duluth with a midship mounted swing crane in the stretched frame. I could not find a serial number due to the winches and modified panels on it so I don't know the year but it has a 6 cylinder gas/fuel engine in it. The information I read was that it was a TD9 engine with 2 added cylinders and only 399 were built. I think this one was a ag Cat as new because it has red and appeared to be painted yellow when new as they added the crane attachment. It does appear that most of them used a TD-18 engine with two cylinders removed. I wonder if I got a bad article although it went into great detail???? Naw. Can't be wrong, its on the internet. ;)
     
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