Insley K12

[td25c]

We have an " Emergency HEF Message " .

There was a Mud slide in south Indiana this afternoon . We expect buy the direction it's headed it will be passing though parts of Kentucky , Tennessee and Alabama .

This is a slow moving mud slide so may take a few weeks before she comes to a stop somewhere in the delta .

Do not attempt to drive though the mud slide . Just report it to local officials when in sight .
Cause of the slide has all the experts baffled ?
This ends the " Emergency HEF Message " .

 

[Tugger2]

Nice looking machine you have there. It looks like a fun job to.

 

[td25c]

Thanks Tugger2 .

We gave him a paint job last summer . He was sure due for one LOL !

Got to be carful on these jobs ! Before ya know it that's all you will want to do .

Get to feeling bad late at night that we charged them for hoggin the mud out .

 

[RZucker]

TD, you wanna be careful with that mudslide... I know a guy that mucked out a pond and had our state Fish and wildlife fine him for destroying a "salmon" stream. the state ecology department came in and nailed him with another pollution violation for mud in a waterway.
The salmon stream was easy to dodge, A dry streambed with a 250' elevation change in less than a mile aint gonna work for fish. But slinging mud on his own property was a little tougher to fight. In the end he won out... at the cost of more than a few bucks. Worst was he had rented my old 9050 Case excavator and Fish and Wildlife wanted to seize it as evidence.





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[td25c]

What you see is pretty typical on a pond clean out in my area .

Let the mud rest & dry for about a year then come back next summer with the dozer & use the material on the dam .

Yep , I've heard the horror stories of what you guys have to deal with out west .

My buddy mike owns a home in Arizona with a swimming pool . Every 3 or 4 years they pump the water out & change it . House is in the middle of nowhere out in the desert . They normally just pump the water to a " dry wash " on the edge of the property . This is supposedly illegal to do .

His pool guy showed up last week and pumped the pool out . Instead of letting the water flow out the dry wash he hooked the outlet to the septic tank inspection pipe .

Talk about a mess ! Sewage overflowing out the shower drains & toilets . Easy 6 figure screwup .

You cat's heard that Don issued Pardons to the Hammonds last week .

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[DMiller]

At my previous employer we had three Shat Ponds or Lagoons for the poop to settle out, chemistry tested the water in the final decanting station where it showed as clean or cleaner with a more balanced pH than any stream pond or road ditch puddle still could NOT discharge it to a stream ditch or even try to reuse in-plant so had to send it to a fourth evaporation pond. Once water has had ANY chemical applied EVEN as it has exhausted or dissipated the DNR in MO calls it waste water and cannot be openly discharged.

 

[RZucker]

At my previous employer we had three Shat Ponds or Lagoons for the poop to settle out, chemistry tested the water in the final decanting station where it showed as clean or cleaner with a more balanced pH than any stream pond or road ditch puddle still could NOT discharge it to a stream ditch or even try to reuse in-plant so had to send it to a fourth evaporation pond. Once water has had ANY chemical applied EVEN as it has exhausted or dissipated the DNR in MO calls it waste water and cannot be openly discharged.

A local dairy has their waste ponds tied into an irrigation system that waters 2250 acres, requires lots of failsafe check valves and such, but the state Dept of Ecology loves it and it's free fertilizer. In the fall and winter they spread the solid stuff and haul the liquid out onto the fields with tankers. I get to fix their tankers and spreaders, Luckily they have a fire hose and wash the trucks before I see them. Otherwise... no Bueno, or pay me to wash them too.

 

[DMiller]

Worked Honey Buckets myself both Human and AG. Had to be Cleaned out, Pressure washed and BLEACH added internally/externally to kill some of the bio articles. SUCKED big time not knowing what little drip was and from where it came. Can't get it all off or out but they did try. A few farms out here have Center Pivot Irrigation systems, use the waste water from the closest small town, has to be lagoon managed with aeration and such through a set of three to five ponds depending city size before can be used for 'Livestock ONLY Feed Stocks'.

 

[RZucker]

Worked Honey Buckets myself both Human and AG. Had to be Cleaned out, Pressure washed and BLEACH added internally/externally to kill some of the bio articles. SUCKED big time not knowing what little drip was and from where it came. Can't get it all off or out but they did try. A few farms out here have Center Pivot Irrigation systems, use the waste water from the closest small town, has to be lagoon managed with aeration and such through a set of three to five ponds depending city size before can be used for 'Livestock ONLY Feed Stocks'.

It's rather odd (or maybe not) that human waste processed through most treatment plants is a no go for crops we eat, but untreated cow poo fertilizer is a go for any food stock. I do realize people flush a lot of really bad stuff too.

 

[td25c]

DMiller , You guys have many " lagoon " type septic systems ?

Local contractor buddy has some family in Missouri .

He was telling me they use a septic tank for solids & the water just drains in to a small pond / lagoon verses installing leach lines .

Anything to that ?

 

[DMiller]

Is true for many counties N of the Missouri River line and south of I-44, too much clay, will not transfer or transmit water into the soil to evaporate so they use lagoons to allow that process.
Our region is Loess soil, similar to clay in it does pack but is porous as a sponge, we have leach fields.

And if you must know, some Poor people just run the outbound lines to the nearest ditch and let it fly no septic, no lagoon, no leach beds until they either get caught or have plumbing issues they cannot mend themselves. When the smell gets bad enough neighbors usually chime in and call MO DNR(Department of Natural Resources) they then have to make repairs or face condemnation and proceedings in court.

 

[td25c]

The Insley crane has Waukesha gas engines in the truck and house .

Moved the rig 17 miles to the job . Took about 45 minutes .

Truck engine burnt about 7 gallons of Go Go juice getting to the job site .

That did not surprise me to much pulling hills & such with the throttle mashed on a 65 year old 40,000 pound plus gas burner rig

What did surprise me was the house engine ….. Run it around 1,200 RPM when draggin .

Fuel burn rate was rite at 2 gallon per hour . Hell ….. My lawn mower dang near burns a gallon an hour cuttin grass .

No complaints on fuel use for what it accomplished .

 

[td25c]

Is true for many counties N of the Missouri River line and south of I-44, too much clay, will not transfer or transmit water into the soil to evaporate so they use lagoons to allow that process.
Our region is Loess soil, similar to clay in it does pack but is porous as a sponge, we have leach fields.

That would be a good system for tight clay . Dig a small lagoon & let it evaporate . I like that !

 

[td25c]

Now you cat's know the difference between a drag line on a job and a slot machine in a casino ?

Yank the handle on the drag line and you win every time .

 

[DMiller]

They say that as a after treatment to septic systems the lagoons do not reek or have much odor at all, I do not care for the thought of one. Years ago a friend's family had a farm near to Bachelor MO, they tried three times to set a leach field avoiding at all cost a lagoon, they ended up with a sewage treatment septic tank system, three stage tank, two aerators a precise amount of biologic dry additive for each month and could discharge to the ground openly. Seller stated the water tested cleaner than their well, the county proved that as true. Big thing on that was maintenance, every six months aerators came out, exchanged, tank bubbler system removed cleaned and reinstalled, tank HAD to be pumped out when solids in the first tank reached a prescribed depth. Do not know if the current owners still maintain it or just added a lagoon.

 

[td25c]

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[RZucker]

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Very smooth and consistent. Me... I would just tangle that stuff up.

 

[DMiller]

You and I both, I can birdsnest the best reels!!

 

[td25c]

Seems like that's how it works RZ . Ya get to the end of the job & everything works smoother .

Now last Tuesday afternoon was a bit tangled when we busted the main line and had to wade out in the drink to fetch the whip end of the cable . Not cool !

Thank God for the " Happy Hour " bar & grill . LOL !

 

[td25c]

Old Roy don't move to bad down the road even if he bumps the governor at 45 MPH in the tall gear . LOL!

He still thinks it's 1950 something . I aint gonna tell him what year it is ?

Settle down Roy ! Eisenhower will get a second term . And stop playing that " Doo Wop " music on the radio . They got this new sound called " Rock & Roll " . LOL