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I learned something new today in Oklahoma.

Crummy

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Interstate vs. Intrastate
If MCS-150 shows Intrastate, stay in that state and follow their rules. Some are easy, some aren't.
Check the Interstate box and it's another ball game in most cases. Authority, clearinghouse, insurance is different, BOC-3, IFTA, UCR.....
 

lantraxco

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Interstate vs. Intrastate
If MCS-150 shows Intrastate, stay in that state and follow their rules. Some are easy, some aren't.
Check the Interstate box and it's another ball game in most cases. Authority, clearinghouse, insurance is different, BOC-3, IFTA, UCR.....
Bloody well endless. They're as always trying to dissuade the little guy with mountains of paperwork and fees. I have a Dodge 3500 cab and chassis flatbed, when I''m hooked up to the gooseneck it's 36K. Sometimes we need to go to Washington or Idyeo (sic) so for a truck I use now and then to deliver a job or pick up something we bought? Total nightmare, and for me personally to keep my CDL and stay legal as the owner and only driver? Ridiculous. My insurance is just a hair under $500 a month and I'm damn lucky to get that.
 

Crummy

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Sometimes we need to go to Washington
If you roll through the Spokane POE and CVEO Tim is still there, kick him in the...... Tell him it's from the guy he had pull around back for a Level 1 Easter morning a few years back because he was "bored", he'll know. I just wanted to get home!!!!!! [edit] I did get a cool sticker for my window though.

Idyeo (sic)
Hey now. Should I be offended?
 

lantraxco

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If you roll through the Spokane POE and CVEO Tim is still there, kick him in the...... Tell him it's from the guy he had pull around back for a Level 1 Easter morning a few years back because he was "bored", he'll know. I just wanted to get home!!!!!! [edit] I did get a cool sticker for my window though.

Hey now. Should I be offended?
Why would you be offended? Hell my Mom and my paternal grampa were both born there, was kinda hoping to retire there before the latest mass exodus from liberal cities started another liberal land rush. I'm stuck in OryGone.
 

Crummy

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Why would you be offended? Hell my Mom and my paternal grampa were both born there, was kinda hoping to retire there before the latest mass exodus from liberal cities started another liberal land rush. I'm stuck in OryGone.
Better hurry, the locals are fortn' up and giving the coasties the cold shoulder & evil eye.
 

92U 3406

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I've been fortunate I've never been pulled over and can count on 1 hand the number of times I've had to cross the scales in the 6 years spent running service trucks.
 

DMiller

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Base judgement, pays your money takes your chances, the rules have been out there for years now and while can be confusing there are NO Unwritten Rules of any validity, there are suppositions and guesses and State regulators not wishing to push the employers in their states but the basic line is the License requirements exist and IF you are driving a Chassis over 26001GVWR or paired with a Trailer or the chassis requires DOT Equipment/inspections then YOU are required to have the license, it is just that simple and chasing the cat around the room arguing for it to stop does not actually make it so.

My License, Class A, ALL the endorsements available and including the HM Test and FBI Background check fees was under $200, how much for the tickets? How much time lost Unpaid? How many jobs tied up and at what expense? Do the math as it is NOT that hard and NOT that bad to get the license unless cannot pass the physical or cannot pass the roads tests and CANNOT argue a Need to Drive Fast or Arrogantly when not working as that is just foolish. Kept this license for a reason, has panned out several times, has protected my bacon more than once and I do know the rules and I do follow those rules.

I was just placed into Clearinghouse, newer program less than two years according to present employer. Nationwide system to screen drivers.
 

Truck Shop

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This thread cracks me up.

The first mistake was making a right turn into the coop. Scale houses in any state are not that interested
in trucks that have a {Fixed Load}. The minute that service truck crossed the scale plugging it up the
weigh master knew he had a pigeon. Yes anything over 26 requires cdl. If a scale is open and trucks are
backed up into the traffic, hit the hammer lane because you are a traffic hazard. DOT is not going come
blasting out of a scale with the blues going to pull over a service truck. They have much bigger fish to
fry. Rookies.
 

funwithfuel

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This thread cracks me up.

The first mistake was making a right turn into the coop. Scale houses in any state are not that interested
in trucks that have a {Fixed Load}. The minute that service truck crossed the scale plugging it up the
weigh master knew he had a pigeon. Yes anything over 26 requires cdl. If a scale is open and trucks are
backed up into the traffic, hit the hammer lane because you are a traffic hazard. DOT is not going come
blasting out of a scale with the blues going to pull over a service truck. They have much bigger fish to
fry. Rookies.
I beg to differ. The kind officer was quick to point out all trucks over 8 tons must weigh. Thought I was disrespecting him at first until I explained my ignorance. Then he educated me on how I just need a class C non-CDL to roll with and not to bypass anymore scales. He really was a nice guy except for having written 500$ worth of tickets. Not licensed for the vehicle. No ME card. Evading a scale. No seatbelt. Had to pay for the scale, everything else was thrown out in court for compliance.
 

Vetech63

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I should have messaged vtech63 and see if he would replace the o-ring for me. A nice dinner for two and whatever he charges would have been cheaper.:)
I would have taken care of that in a jiffy! I got knabbed the same way in Kansas about 15 years ago. I passed right on by a scale house at the southern border that I had NEVER had to stop at before. Freaking trooper ran me down before I got 2 miles from it, took my license, and had me go back to the nearest previous exit (in OKLAHOMA) and return to the scale house. I was fine on weight, driving under gvw of 25K.......got 5 tickets......no med card, no log records, etc...... Told him I was required to have that in Oklahoma but he didn’t give a ****. He then escorted me to the next exit about 5 miles into Kansas and I had to sit there for 12 hours before I could proceed.

I just avoid Them if I can and I still drive past them when I run into one. Never had another problem since. I think that trooper just wanted to be a prick that day and decided I was the perfect target.
 

BigWrench55

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Well Paul, moving forward, just throw some wrenches in your trunk with an O-ring kit and hit the road . Can't get ya for a CMV in your personal vehicle :D
I had considered that and almost did.
I changed my mind because they always say that it only needs a o-ring. And you show up to find out that the driveshaft broke and ripped a bunch of hoses out.
 

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Boss actually wanted me to go to Oklahoma today. I politely said f**k no! There isn't a scale at that border crossing and I have been there a few times already. It's to damn soon. I am waiting to see how they handle the tickets before I leave the state again. If they want to pay those tickets then I will go.
 

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You want a driving job that DOT stays away from?

You will still run paper logs, no one bothers you with needless horse sh!t, at scales it's the by pass lane.
If it's warm to hot weather you just keep moving. Apiary-Bees. Haul Bees. If it's warm to hot weather
and you get pulled into a scale and set a little too long the bees will start swarming. And when you leave
and the bees home is gone he's pi$$ed and will take it out on anyone around. Construction zones are
great, the bees create heat in the hive, when the truck slows down there is no air to cool the hives and
the bees will swarm. You don't stop when hauling bees.
 
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