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How do you transport your 45-50 size mini

Discussion in 'Compact Excavators' started by Reuben, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. Reuben

    Reuben Senior Member

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    How many of you guys on here transport a 45-50 size mini excavator with a 3/4 ton pickup or a one ton truck.....while utilizing a 10,000 pound capacity trailer. And yes I know how much they weigh. We are buying a mini and our leaning toward a 35 size machine for one reason and one reason only. it is the biggest machine we can get that weighs under 10,000 lbs. We are sick of tying up a CDL driver,truck,and trailer for dig and run small jobs. SO back to the original question....who hauls a 45-50 mini on a 10,000 lb cap trailer with a 3/4 ton of one ton. We are in Pennsylvania.
     
  2. Cretebaby

    Cretebaby Senior Member

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    I am guilty, but only once ar twice a year

    Why not get a 14k trailer?
     
  3. hvy 1ton

    hvy 1ton Senior Member

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    CDL for any trailers over 10k, sucks don't it? The best part is if its an RV you can go to 15K, not that anyone gets a CDL to pull an 18k RV with a 1ton.
     
  4. Cretebaby

    Cretebaby Senior Member

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    I din't think that was an issue in PA

    Is it in Kansas?
     
  5. Squizzy246B

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    This how we do it:

    https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2431

    Having the mini on the truck is an issue that we argue over sometimes. The tools trailer goes behind so you can drop the trailer and the machine and the truck can leave the site without having to worry about unloading any equipment.

    Loading on a trailer would be much easier than handling the ramps but then I would have the tools on the truck. The yanmar is close enough to 3 tonnes or 6600lbs. We wanted the 35 sized machine but it was actually closer to 3.8 tonnes in working trim and that is near max for the truck and beyond the capacity of our trailer.....and I'm also the only one licensed for that load. This way my nephew can haul the machines around in the truck without having to go up a stage in the licenses.
     
  6. 93turbo

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    here in ohio they go by the combined gross vehicle rate so if the truck is rated at 10,000lbs that leaves ya 16000lbs for trailer. I have a tri axle trailer with 5500lb axles so it is built for 16500lbs but since it has a 2 5/16 ball its only rated at 10,000lbs so with the 11000lbs of the truck still no cdl required
     
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  7. redneckpete

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    Why don't you get the proper licence class?

    Here in ontario we need an A class licence (the same class required to pull a fifth wheel tractor trailer combo) to pull more then 10,000 lbs. It's a bit of pain initially, but because I have it, I can float to the job, haul the soil out and drive the rig home at the end of the day. I leave the operators without their A class drivers license to fight over the little scrappy jobs with the smaller machines.

    I haul my 5T and 8T machine with a single axle dump. It's also really handy when you want to take along a skidsteer too, and don't have to make a second trip.

    Pete
     
  8. Hendrik

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    Guess it is a matter of weighing up all the options but I am great believer in doing the job properly the first time, which may well mean some headaches initially but in the long run you'll be better off because you have the right machine for the job, instead of a smaller one struggling away.
    So yeah I'd agree, get your truck license and a right size truck to pull/carry the right sized machine for you application.
    Having a truck license comes in handy for other things, for example id times are slow you might get a couple of days work driving a truck for someone else.
    Not sure how it works where you are but here in Oz you can get a small truck license once you have held a car license for a year and then after a year of small truck license you can go for a semi trailer up to 42.5 tonnes and after that you have to drive a 42.5 tonner for a couple of years and then apply for a road train/B-double license.
    I was lucky in that I got my truck license out in the bush where you took the local copper for a spin around the block. However I did have to parallel park a small truck, bit of a pain but I managed.
     
  9. hvy 1ton

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    I looked it up and i was wrong on the 10K trailer thing in ks. I guess i got my rules mixed up. Reuben Assuming that PA rules are the same as ks, you would be able to run a 8k truck and 14k trailer without tying up a CDL drivers.
     
  10. Iron Horse

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    That brought back a memory . :D When i was 19 , I pulled up in front of the police station with a full load of wool on a semi , i said to the cop on duty , I need a license to drive that thing to Brisbane . He looked over his glasses out the window and said , well you can obviously drive it , and wrote out my license . :D
     
  11. Loaderman380

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    The 26,001 rule applies to straight trucks. If your trailer is 10,000lbs or more you need a CDL. These regs. are supposed to be federal, meaning the same in every state. There are of course exceptions to these rules for farmers and a few others.

    See the attached from the Federal Motor Carriers Saftey Admin.
     
  12. Cretebaby

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    The 26k applies to Class A also

    You do NOT need a CDL simply because the trailer is over 10K
     
  13. LandRaider

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    One day I'm gonna get a trailer big enough to haul mine daily. Prob be a 14k
     
  14. joispoi

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    What about an F350 or F450 with a hook lift and dump body? Might come in under 26,000 lbs.
     
  15. joispoi

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    F650 would appear to be the correct size. It falls within the 26,000 limit. You don´t need a CDL operator, you can use it as a dump truck (with a less convenient tailgate) and who can´t use a dumpster every now and then (the dumpster is great until others find it and you find that people have donated their unwanted sofas and old tires.) It might set you back a little more than a utility trailer, though.
     

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  16. dirt digger

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    guys you could argue all day about the CDL...the fact is nobody knows jack ...poop... about what they are talking about because nobody can ever get a straight answer from the DMV or DOT whether they need to have a CDL for a particular setup

    Reuben...back on track...i don't see it being a problem...local trailer dealers around here are giving away trailers now and you can find 10,000lbs goosenecks out there...that would be a better way to distribute the weight, but a bumper pull would work as well

    my buddy just bought a brand new 12K deckover (22' with a 3' beavertail) for $2500 in Manheim PA from Appalachian Trailer sales..sweet trailer

    or you could go the roll back route, but then you run into heigh issues getting under some of the railroad bridges here in the great state of PA


    on a side note...how close are you to Pike County Delaware Township?
     
  17. Cretebaby

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    People make way more difficult then it is. It is pretty simple really.
     
  18. sqrl$$

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    Just go to ask.com and type it "when do I need a CDL" It will take you to a dmv page and give you a set of questions to answer to tell you if you need a cdl or not.
     
  19. Colorado Digger

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    we use 14 k trailers and 20 k trailers, and don't sweat it.
     
  20. Cretebaby

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    Pretty tough to stay under CDL with a 20k trailer.