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Heaping Loader Bucket Volume ?

Discussion in 'Tractor/Loader/Backhoes' started by planecrazzzy, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. planecrazzzy

    planecrazzzy Well-Known Member

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    Hey Guys,
    I'm just wondering about the volume per Loader Bucket scoop...
    I have a Case 580 w/4 in 1 loader bucket...
    I'm guessing with a good bucket full (Heaping )
    I'd have a yard of dirt/sand ?
    Until I get some loads from a place that weighs the truck... I'll need to estimate the load.
    It will help if I count the scoops somewhat...
    My Truck will haul 5/6 yards...
    The Truck and Backhoe weigh the same... Bout 15,500 lbs
    Truck GVW is 33,000 lbs
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    Maybe the Bucket full is only 3/4 yard because of "Fluff"
    Maybe that rule applies to Dirt more than Sand ? (40% expansion with fresh dug dirt)

    I'm finally getting close to WORKING this Hoe...
    and this end is new to me.
    .
    More paperwork is the only thing stopping me from hitting the road.
    Insurance and trailer title change and registration fees $$$
    Gotta Fly...
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  2. sheepfoot

    sheepfoot Senior Member

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    Your 4x1 bucket is 1 yard heaped and a little over 3/4 yard struck. Your loader max lift is around 5000 lbs. so if it will not pick your load up it weight more than 2.5 tons. Wet sand is 3,500 lbs per yd., dry loose sand at 2,700, crushed stone 2,700, earth loose mud 2,900, earth wet excavated 2,700, earth dry 2,100. You should be able to find a good material weight info on the web, most wheel loader spec sheets have the charts and some have wood weights (logs) also.
     
  3. cuttin edge

    cuttin edge Senior Member

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    Better put that rear boom down before you get going. Not too many Louisville trucks left around here. My dad worked for a guy that had a whole fleet of them for hauling fish. The salt on the winter roads finally put an end to the cabs on them. Is there no tag on your bucket telling you the size?
     
  4. planecrazzzy

    planecrazzzy Well-Known Member

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    I didn't look at a tag on the bucket , but that is usually water level ...
    The Backhoe was only put on the trailer as a test...
    I think Chains would be more important than lowering the boom...

    I measured it... 14 ft tall...
    Even though I could run it over to some local places with the boom locked.
    I'll get into the habit of lowering it , always.
    I tried it to see if it would fit the Beaver tail ...
    I'll experiment with chaining it down... Or... make a saddle type something...

    How could you tell it was made in Kentucky ???
    I am SO SURPRISED how this truck is NOT corroded.
    To really get an Idea... Look at places like the exhaust manifold bolts...
    This truck has mild rust like it was in Calif...
    I think it was Built from parts...I think the parts sat in a wrecking yard.
    But someone did a good job.
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    Gotta Fly...
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  5. cuttin edge

    cuttin edge Senior Member

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    There was a guy here that forgot the boom, and hit a stone bridge, not pretty. Those trucks were all built in Louisville, and most who owned them called them a Ford Louisville. We have a couple of Sterlings, and they are not any where near the truck the Louisville was. They weren't pretty or anything, but I have a lot of memories attached to them because of my dad. Our 675, just a regular bucket, is about 2 ton to a bucket rounded. I've never checked the tag either.
     
  6. ptm600

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    As far as tieing down goes, DOT says you have to have a chain front and rear on the tractor attached to both sides of the trailer, a chain over each bucket attached to both sides of the trailer. Not legal to haul with the hoe in the transport lock.
     
  7. planecrazzzy

    planecrazzzy Well-Known Member

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    On that note... I just bought 2 Hwy Grade 70 chains to tie it down.
    I have good "D" rings on the trailer
    But I planned to use some ol regular chain for securing the Bucket/boom in place.
    Is that chain ok for that ?
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    So I guess the other Truck I was trying to get was from there too...
    Funny... I never thought they were Ugly...
    This one had a Detroit 6V92...
    Lost a water seal before I crest the mountain trying to
    drive it from AZ to MN
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    Gotta Fly...
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  8. DualsportWA

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    That's a nice looking 580K!
     
  9. planecrazzzy

    planecrazzzy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, As I was saving to buy a Backhoe... It took me a few years to find one with
    everything I wanted... When some like this were For Sale , They went fast.
    That why when I saved enough... and realized I had enough to buy it.
    I needed to ACT... It kind of surprised me , I thought I'd need to save about 8K more.
    It's been a good running Hoe, I've had it about 6 years.

    I've got Digging for Main water to the house from the Cabin-8 ft deep  (3).JPG
    a lot of personal use out of it. Building a house.
    It's almost paid for itself.
     
  10. old-iron-habit

    old-iron-habit Senior Member

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    The MN DOT instructor that we had during a training session at work before I retired said that the chain only has to be rated strong enough to hold the secured load. A chain with no rating marks are rated by DOT to the lowest rating for that size chain. I would think for chaining over the buckets you could get by with any chain of 1/4" or larger. Remember you must secure the machine individually in all 4 directions. You can not throw a chain thru a drawbar for instance and tighten both ways with only one binder.

    Edit: Oops, meant to respond to post #7 but grabbed #6 instead.
     
  11. cuttin edge

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    I wouldn't bother with a machine like that, but I always cross chain anything from a 320 and bigger. Our float man always preached that. He had a 992 John Deere on, and a woman pulled out in front of him. He swerved and ended up on his side in a duck pond. That big excavator never moved, even when the pulled everything up right again
     
  12. planecrazzzy

    planecrazzzy Well-Known Member

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    please stay up there... Scan_20150309.jpg
     
  13. cuttin edge

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    I can't get over how great the condition of it is.