Grease Compatibility Chart

[Johnsoils]

Folks,

Attached is a copy of the "Grease Compatibility" chart that I have. I had to change the format and lost some resolution. If you want a better copy, let me know and I can email it directly to you.

Thanks,

John

 

[salesrep]

This chart is wrong.

 

[Lashlander]

This chart is wrong.

You being a salesman ought to know what a crock this post is! Why would you make this statement and walk away? Is this your opinion or a fact? What is wrong about it? Or do you think we will all learn better if we try to figure it out ourselves?

 

[salesrep]

Excuse me....... I happened over here and noticed that this chart is incorrect.
Here is a correct one.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/greasechart.htm

 

[AtlasRob]

:beatsme I think I must be missing something here, or maybe I am looking for something that isnt there.
Why would you change grease ? cost, supplier, !
Do any of you NON oil specialists know what sort of grease you use ?

I use 2 types of grease and have only added the 2nd choice since I invested in a breaker. What I refer to as general grease LP-2 and a Multi purpose Calcium Sulphonate ( dont worry, I got the paperwork out to check ) which was recommended to me by the guys where the breaker came from.

And I cant see where either fit on that chart.

 

[salesrep]

About 90% otc sales are lithium or lithium complex. A guy would switch for obvious reasons. Machine life and /or cost. Most other bases are used in industry.

 

[AtlasRob]

About 90% otc sales are lithium or lithium complex. A guy would switch for obvious reasons. Machine life and /or cost. Most other bases are used in industry.

Sorry that went right over my head

90% otc ?

A guy would switch for obvious reasons ? From what to what ?

Sorry not obvious to me. Would you like to elaborate?

And no I am not on a wind up. Please educate me.
Be tomorrow by the time you get a response as its bed time here. :drinkup

 

[salesrep]

otc over the counter.
Grease like many other products comes in a variety of compounds and quality.
You want it to last and lubricate properly. Contaminents, moisture, machinery usage etc. all come into play. Certain greases will perform better in different applications and vice versa. Schaeffers for instance manufactures over 30 different greases in 4-5 different nlgi grades, many are cross compatable with others, some are not. Grease is underated. All grease is not the same. Lot of variables. A lot of the grease out there is "hot dog" or throw what the refiner can't dispose of in the grease. Base oil, additives, and thickener comprise greases.

 

[Johnsoils]

SalesRep - I'll forward this to our technical department and see what they have to say. I've never had anyone say it was incorrect. We'll see what they say. Thanks

 

[AtlasRob]

otc over the counter.
Grease like many other products comes in a variety of compounds and quality.
You want it to last and lubricate properly. Contaminents, moisture, machinery usage etc. all come into play. Certain greases will perform better in different applications and vice versa. Schaeffers for instance manufactures over 30 different greases in 4-5 different nlgi grades, many are cross compatable with others, some are not. Grease is underated. All grease is not the same. Lot of variables. A lot of the grease out there is "hot dog" or throw what the refiner can't dispose of in the grease. Base oil, additives, and thickener comprise greases.

Mmmm, thanks, I think . I feel like I just had a conversation with a rep

What I really hoped you were going to say was ***** is ideal for xxxxxx but if you are doing ****** I would recommend ( Z ) because ........

But not to worry I'll keep using the LP-2 for machine lub and tother one for the breaker. :drinkup

 

[Iron Horse]

BPW , the maker of semi trailer axles has just come up with a new grease that they claim has a service life of 500,000 klm's . They say that because their brakes do'nt need servicing for that many kilometres bearings may fail because no one would check them . It's called Eco L1 , it's light Blue in colour and it comes in 20 lt drum or cartridge . I'm going to use it in my rotor bearings on my flail mowers that i have trouble with . If it goes good i'll use it in everything .

 

[Johnsoils]

salesrep - I'm finding that the AMSOIL chart is accurate. Can you provide us with a chart from your supplier Schaeffers? I know you guys sell oil, and if you sell grease your company should have it's own compatiblitily chart. I'm finding conflicting info. on other sights with the chart you referenced. I just want to clear up the confusion, so other Heavy Equipment Forum members aren't confused. By my findings the AMSOIL chart is accurate, but does not agree with your BobTheOilGuy's chart. I'm working on securing a chart from Exxon/Mobil, Phillips, Shell and anyone else that will give me access to one. Thanks, John

 

[salesrep]

John. :drinkup:
Amsoil and Schaeffers will just have to agree to disagree. The chart from bobistheoilguy is the Schaeffers chart. It was not my intention to call you or Amsoil out when I saw the chart,as it was different from ours, but to educate the members. Upon further research, there are similar charts to the one you posted, ours is obviously different.:beerchug We have been blending greases for over 160 years and have produced our aluminum complex grease for several decades and they have been used with no compatibilty issues according to our charts and based on extensive research from the breadth of our industrial customer base.
NO, I am not trying to sell any of ya'll our greases.

Members just be aware that the polyurea,calcium,lithium,betone,aluminum based grease thickeners have different properties and if you switch from one to the other get expert advice.

 

[MKTEF]

Maybee you two salesrep could post some info here about the different grades of grease, and the pro/con of the different additives/thickeners?

Not to make a add for the products, but to learn the members here just a bit about grease?
I bet many here would appreciate such a info.:cool2

AtlasRob why don't you use EP 2 instead? Isn't Atlas/Terex demanding EP for their machine?(EP= Extreme pressure)
Most of our equipment has a demand for EP-2, so we are using it all over.(exept for the high speed rolerbearings)

 

[salesrep]

Tons of info here.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/GREASE/index.htm

 

[AtlasRob]

Maybee you two salesrep could post some info here about the different grades of grease, and the pro/con of the different additives/thickeners?

Not to make a add for the products, but to learn the members here just a bit about grease?
I bet many here would appreciate such a info.:cool2

AtlasRob why don't you use EP 2 instead? Isn't Atlas/Terex demanding EP for their machine?(EP= Extreme pressure)
Most of our equipment has a demand for EP-2, so we are using it all over.(exept for the high speed rolerbearings)

:Banghead Definetly getting old, dont know where the *ell I got LP-2 from, it is indeed EP-2 Texaco Multifax I am using. Thanks MKTEF for picking up on that :drinkup though I suspect I will be changing over to the 2 nd choice mentioned ( no I cant spell it again ) once I have used up the present stock. I have used it on my oscillating bucket centre pin and it definetly hangs around longer.

 

[mouse]

trivia indeed but i find your chart curious salesrep.

for example reading one way it says clay to lithium complex is yellow but the other way is red.

and it aint got any scale to suggest which way you are moving...

any feedback ironhorse

 

[salesrep]

Nice catch mouse. This chart was posted several years ago and was not proof read. Clay ( bentone) is incompatable with lithium bases. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Johnsoils]

Sorry I've been gone for a while, had email problems, then password issues. I'll see what I can get scanned in and attached on the greases. I have some good training hand-outs that I might be able to get posted. They answer a lot of the things your referencing.

 

[qball]

i find astroglide works for and in everything.