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Good old Iron versus new stuff

Discussion in 'Scrapers' started by squid_wood777, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. squid_wood777

    squid_wood777 Well-Known Member

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    Here,s some more. 20190412_114943.jpg 20190410_130947.jpg 20190412_101254.jpg 20190412_101318.jpg
     
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    WTF, old cutting edges on the side of bowl. Agreed, cheap wear plates but looks like sh$t, IMO>
    squid, follow your employer on Facebook so you'll know what is going, LOL
     
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    As soon as you said K19 Cummins, I knew this was a Piacentini machine. Got to spend a Day or so with Kim a few years back, talking about the Wabcats and a few other machines.
     
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    No more rebuilds,from now on apparently the old 33D bowls get a G primemover put on them,even Piacentini,s are running out of 33D parts.Be interesting to see how they go,there,s been a few companies over here that have done it before.My only concern is how much rougher will they be to operate,i,m not a big fan of G,s for this reason?Pity they did,nt rebuild a E and try that first,but they know what they,re doing,Piacentini,s know about scraper,s they,ve made their own e.g 51E Elevator and the famous.Wabcat,a 51B primemover with a Wabco 333 r send,both are still going with the Wabcat,s having big hours on them.Loved Scraper,s from the first time i set eyes on one at about 8 yrs old,so there,s no one better for me to work for that,s for sure.Talking to a fitter who works out of the main yard in Picton and he told me they have mainly 57E,s and are building up on 57G,s,all the old 57B,s are gone,they have 10 working 39,s,a few 37,s 33,s 51,s and a few smaller one,s,but rough estimate is well over 80 making them the biggest privately owned fleet not only in Oz but the southern hemisphere.I know Lendlease like to brag that they are the largest fleet down here,but its not true.
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    Dont know why it got a K19,but it goes hard.The first rebuild got a 3408,maybe they found the last one they had and thought this was a good chance to use it.Next one,s arriving in the next few week,s so we,ll, see what that,s got in it.Would love to spend a day at Picton with Colin or Brad Kim or the 3 of them talking Scraper,s,would be the best day.
     
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    Dont usually look at that Stan,but i,ll check it and see what you mean mate.
     
  7. RZucker

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    I would love to come down your way and hang out with them for a few days, I know riding with an Aussie in a US rental car is not always a good idea. :D Maybe I can do better in Aus.
     
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    Haha us Aussie,s can take abit and it would be a excellent day i,d say visiting the Piacentini,s.
     
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    Had a look Stan,best you tell me what you seen coz i could,nt find much but i,m new to this so i was probably looking in the wrong place mate.
     
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    Yes Stan i knew what you meant about the side of the bowl and i know it might,nt look the best,but it,s fairly abrasive sand they are in and i guess their thinking more about that than looks.
    I was talking about what you had spied on their facebook site.I had a look and like i said i,m knew to it and may not have checked it all out.How about telling me what i,m looking for and i,ll have another go.
     
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    Are you talking about the big float they,ve built Stan?Seem,s they have the capability to build just about anything.They have picked up a few jobs in the ironore mines up in the Pilbara for Rio tinto and BHP,so no doubt they would have more than likely already brought or are thinking about buying a float or two.Someone told me a overseas company had brought a few,but Piacentini,s dont say who and how many,they dont say anything over here anyway.
     
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    I understand using the old edges but at least try and make it look like something.
     
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    Only thing i can think of is they were on there long ago before she hit the graveyard and they,ve forgot to remove them,but i dont really give a toss about them to be honest,im more impressed by how it goes,very good indeed,how much work they put into it,a huge amount and how comfortable i am sitting in the cab operating a machine that,s like new.Won,t even think about that part of the bowl.
     
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    True enough they’re going to wear off anyway. Truly a fine rebuild in all other areas.
     
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    Anybody else notice the crawler rails being used as elevator chain?
    As far as the "wear plates" that doesn't bother me. As long as the "up front" part is up to snuff. Seen a few Cat dealer Rebuilds... and some of that stuff got missed.
     
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    D4 chains,they use them on the 51elevators too.Must be stronger and last longer i guess.
     
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    Sealed and lubed pins will last longer, saw the results of D-3 rails used as elevator chain years ago, unfortunately the links wanted to spread out and leak. They may have been a bit light for a 333 Wabco.
     
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