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Discussion in 'Personnel' started by AECCorp., Apr 3, 2016.

  1. DMiller

    DMiller Senior Member

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    Need to understand, when start with a new employer will be low on the pole as well until prove your value will be on the low end of pay spectrum, all us old farts in here were in those shoes and more than once. They have no clue what skills you do or do not have until you work awhile in sight of the boss. We learned to Not extend our credit so moves could be achieved if need be, in the 70s/80's/90s the odds of a company closing or being bought up and consolidated or just deciding to not have mechanics at high pay happened a lot, have to gear your mind to that way of thinking or you are sunk before ever float that boat. Had more than one employer, contract shop manager walk up and let me know the money was being cut, had not the funds to pay us the given rate so could stay or the door opened both ways, I walked quite a few occasions. I lived like a squatter more than once, rental trailers, RV trailers, even in old garages turned apartment until I knew what or where I was headed.
     
  2. check

    check Senior Member

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    Prospective employees need to understand things from the viewpoints of employers and other employees and the interrelationships between.
    Some companies I have worked for in the distant past were quite up-front in their ideology that seniority meant little to them and that the best should be promoted, letting the least performers live with it. I doubt it's even possible to operate that way any more because of the complexity of EOE and related potential lawsuits.
    So if you're the new guy with a lot of high expectations you have to consider that if those who were hired before you are slow to advance, there is no "passing lane" for faster employees to get what they think they deserve.
    The only way around this is in high turnover situations.
    Back in the day, getting on with smaller companies you could at least hire on at low pay and prove yourself, then demand what you're worth and move on if they don't agree. An employer in this scenario has to consider that a female/minority employee may sue him if he lets a more recent hire advance quickly.
    So legislation has mandated value and we cannot expect the law of supply and demand to completely dictate the value of labor anymore.
     
  3. old-iron-habit

    old-iron-habit Senior Member

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    I was referring to keeping or laying off employees once on the job. Hiring hall rules are a different animal in some areas entirely. 60 months is a long time to get on the A list. You probably do not need to worry about boomers taking your work unless it is crazy busy for 5+ years.
     
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