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Discussion in 'Personnel' started by AECCorp., Apr 3, 2016.

  1. walkerv

    walkerv Senior Member

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    You were exactly correct on that topic pumpguy, that is a big con on that job had you not chimed in i wouldnt have known to ask that question , so thank you for that info , on that note thatinterview went well and i have a standing offer from them i told them i have to think about it and need a bit of time , i have another interview this week local grading company , private owned 200 peice out in in the field fleet of 16 mack dumps and more at their farm , talkedto lead guy for almost 3 hrs at their home shop this morning, he is part of the hiring process i have asked everyone i could find that knows the company and everyone tells me they treat there employees awesome . He likes my mack and general truck experience in general but i made him aware i prefer heavy equipment guess we will see how this pans out when the new week rolls around
     
  2. Birken Vogt

    Birken Vogt Charter Member

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    Do you mean by that statement that if you have the service truck they do not want to pay until you reach the job site no matter how far? What about an agreed upon amount of free travel time, the same time it would take for you to get to the shop, beyond that they are paying. But the trouble with that sort of arrangement is they can tend to forget over time, or get annoyed if you are taking advantage of it and the other guys are doing it for free, makes you look like the odd man out instead of making them look like chumps.
     
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  3. walkerv

    walkerv Senior Member

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    Yes no pay till you get to first job , or get to shop if no call to a site first thing , traffic in morning will turn trip to shop be at least an hour, if i had to pass buy the shop on a way to site i would and could stopin to restock so i could start getting paid thats what they told me they have there guys do . The potential massive amount of driving is turning me off from this job more i think about it , its not like going to a job site And working on equipment all day for a contractor they want you on the go constantly, if it cant be fixxed quickly withen 2 hrs get an exchange unit out to them asap so they dont call another rental place , i like fast pace work but they made it sound like it ridiculous most days .
     
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  4. thepumpguysc

    thepumpguysc Senior Member

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    Happy to help..
    Rental co. on call/road work, is a bit taxing.. not a lot of "old timers".. & the guys "in the shop" are just parts replacers.. from what I've seen..
    Hydro cylinder leaking> replace it
    Inj. pump leaking> replace it
    Hydros don't work> replace pump
    Engine wont start> call the pump shop

    I loved working on Macks.. pumps that is..
    The Bosch FACTORY use to CALL ME to figure out field service problems..
     
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  5. John C.

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    When I worked out of a truck for dealers the drive to the shop was on me. If going to a job though the drive was on the work order number and charged and I got paid. I got out of the last truck though after a few years. The long hours and not being able to go through a lot of things with my kids that they were experiencing just made the whole thing a diminishing returns situation.

    The other issue not talked about is how over time is handled. When I started in the industry anything over eight was time and a half, anything over ten was double. Customers were charged at that rate and things had a livable pace. Then the unions were broke and things went the other way. (I'm not making a statement about unions). Most shops were overtime over eight and no double time unless you worked a holiday. Then you got the holiday pay and the time and a half. Customers were only charged the difference between your straight time and the overtime. Now all of a sudden you worked until the machine was back running. Now the trend here is no overtime until you have 40 hours done in a week. There are signs in front of businesses everywhere looking for talent. I don't know how many people give me that whine about not finding good people. I usually just bite my tongue.

    walkserv, right now I think you have some leverage. The only advice I could give is as you negotiate with potential employers make sure your interests are served before theirs. They will all just treat you as another machine.
     
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  6. DMiller

    DMiller Senior Member

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    Mechanics, GOOD mechanics are in really tight supply right now, many men I know still bending wrenches are negotiating their own better interest not the bosses, just not to stupid levels. The boss gets too arrogant they walk and he or she is just on the short end trying to catch up. Business used to be flowing with extra bodies, today they are JUST extra Bodies not many worth their salt. To find ONE worth keeping or hiring many shops are bending over backward to make certain they stay put.
     
  7. Birken Vogt

    Birken Vogt Charter Member

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    I thought about this some more, sounds like it would be a recipe for calls at all hours of the night and weekends too to have the truck at home. So I would not agree to it unless travel to places other than the shop would be paid. And talking on the phone should be paid also in my book.

     
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  8. walkerv

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    Yep and they told me that i woould have turns being on call.i finaly had my interview with owner of a local place i would like to work i have one more at 11 this morning with another local company. And one on monday that i am canceling .you are correct on the good people being in tight supply if i take the one i interviewed today im going to be back primarily working on a fleet of over 25 mack dump trucks and a couple peterbilt tractors and will have a service truck , they also have about 200 peices of cat equipment so i have potential to be still working on that also although owner has doubts i can get thru the trucks to give me time for heavy equipment , we shall see . I figure it will take 6 months to a year to get thru them and get them into the shape they would like to see them in . I have one younger mechanic i worked with and trained for awhile that is actually good listens and learns from my lessons so if i get on there i am going to try and get him there also if the job and company is as good as it sounds. I have asked alot of people that know of the company and cant find anyone to say a bad thing about how they work and usually first thing everyone says is they treat there guys awsome .
     
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  9. thepumpguysc

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    Looking for a job sux.. but it looks like you might have stumbled into a good one..??
    Lots of equipment means job security.. most of the time..
    Just don't be in a BIG rush to fix'm all, right away, or you'll work yourself outta a job. Lol
    ALWAYS stay/look busy & when they come & tell you "somethings gotta run today".. jump on it..
    Good luck..
     
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  10. walkerv

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    ??? We shall see . Im putting in my notice monday i can always find something wrong with trucks i will have np looking busy , as i see it if its not what its cracked up to be i have lotsa options out there i have to cancel 3 interviews .. Well only actually other 2 arent scheduled yet .so yeah i will have np if i end up looking again only it will be a much more casual search if i end up looking more .
     
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  11. Rentalmechanic

    Rentalmechanic Well-Known Member

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    I work for a rental shop in the field, another buddy over at sunbelt said they get paid all travel time. They paid from the time they leave there house until they get back In the service truck at home. I later verified what he was saying , part he left out was they have drive time cameras and gps with speed alert . Rofl Im staying where im at, they are fair if i drive to the closest shop 15 mins to start my time. Back 6 years ago I was rearend by a car because I was not clocked in they didnt have to file workmans comp which suppose to pay for the office visit and drug test all part of it during time but I wasnt on company time yet because i hadn't made it to the shop. I got the bill ER visit 1100 and 300 dollar drug test. They told me to have the guys insurance that rearended me to pay it. After I told them no and proceed to unload all my tools into my shop box they asked what I was doing, was quiting, they paid it before i could get the last tool out of the truck. I had a wreck in there service truck which wasn't my fault, days later after this was paid a visit from HR . Seems management didn't follow procedure, I was compensated for lost time. Funny when you start packing they have ears that go to there Brain. Look out for yourself no one else will.
     
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  12. walkerv

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    I went to work for a local grading company I have one week in there and love it so far