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Finding an Honest Employer

Discussion in 'Shop Talk' started by Zewnten, Oct 6, 2022.

  1. Camshawn

    Camshawn Senior Member

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    Another overlooked avenue is water/waste water. Any town with a water/waste water system has mechanical staff. Our region had marine engineers, then heavy duty mechanics, and now is hiring millwrights. The work is the same and all 3 trades have similar skills. Pumps, motors, engines, large valves, standby power. The demographics of our workforce was getting towards retirement age 10 yrs ago. It is a growth industry and there is fairly good job security. Cam
     
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    The employees have to be trained by explaining the ethics and practices of the company in such a way that they believe us, as we should be honest with them in the first point.
     
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  3. mekanik

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    I put in 15 years at an electrical utility. It was a good job plus I was able to get a small pension out of it. There was lots of training and a good benefit package. The wage was a bit lower than the private shops but the benefits made up for it.
     
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  4. Zewnten

    Zewnten Senior Member

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    All the municipal jobs here are way under payed think $20-25/hr vs $3000/mo mortgage. As for the "retirement" money tomorrow doesn't feed my family today and maybe I'm also a pessimist but with the way the economy is and going further I have a hard time seeing a pension when I'm ready to retire that's kept up with inflation.
     
  5. JD955SC

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    I left a state job. Very low pay ($11/hr) and the retirement was 60 percent of your three highest paid years. I would have topped out at 32k per year so…60 percent of damn near nothing, let me do the math is…nothing.

    Even more damning is I was starting in the last year of the “good” old retirement plan. New plan is very akin to a 401k with minimal input from the employer side.

    Let’s just say I have never looked back.
     
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  6. John C.

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    When I worked for the first equipment dealer back in 79 the word was there would be no social security and the union pension would be the only thing for us. Union pension went broke in 2008 and 2009 and there was little left to pay retirees. The only reason I get some of that pension is because when I quit that job after I vested the pension, the union bought an annuity to cover me. It isn't near what I paid in for. The only thing still around is Social Security and I'm real glad I paid into it even though I didn't have to.

    If you aren't making enough to feed the family and put a dollar or two away for when you can't work, you need to go somewhere else or do something else.
     
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  7. Truck Shop

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    An old cattle rancher I did work for years ago told me about some range land he bought after WWII,
    .75 and acre. That was in the early 80's that he told me, those days are long gone he said then.
    That same land, sage, rocks and range grass has houses on it now 350k living on a rock pile. The lots
    sold for 80k a piece. Pretty tough to make a living, pay for a house, two cars and raise a family.

    Living the dream.
     
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  8. Zewnten

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    Moving is the plan. Although Kansas City wasn't the first thing that came to mind all the places we did look at had a rather high cost of living to the local wages. Right now I'm talking with two equipment dealers in the area about moving out. The plan is to have my own service company but the COL of Denver and surrounding areas has hindered that and even set us backwards. The recent used truck prices, along with commercial property rents have made it impossible here. Sometimes I'm desperate enough to get out of here I think about bugging Vtech haha.
     
  9. crane operator

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    The scale for the union operators in Kansas city is good wages (I think). Its certainly not the scenery you're used to, but like you've found out, Colorado is pretty tough to afford. I didn't think our housing was that high, until the wife and I started looking at local listings the other day. I may not be able to afford the house I live in. I think that may change in the next year, but who knows.

    I think a change of job and location is a good thing, and it can change your outlook on things. Good luck!
     
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  10. Zewnten

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    Alright first job offer is in and it's good. Not a ton of money for relocation but it's better than anything offered by companies trying to get me to move up into the mountains here. Now I've got to figure out moving, do I move out first and find a place for the family? Or do we do it Beverly Hillbilly style? Or dump it all and rebuy it and move bag of clothes each?
     
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    Dump the personal possessions and rebuy what you need. Pay to move the tools and related equipment for work.

    I moved from Colorado to Michigan in 2012. We packed everything and moved into our first house. In 2015, we sold that house. The move was frantic as buyers required immediate possession on close. We rush moved into storage while building a house. Moved into that house in 2017. Going through boxes during move in, we found stuff that had been packed in Colorado, and never opened until 5 years later. Much of that stuff got tossed or donated. Why we held on to boxes of crap that we thought we needed for so long, I'll never know. If I could go back, I would have ditched way more in Colorado, and gotten a smaller vehicle to move my stuff in.
     
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    Stop telling everybody! LOL:)
     
  13. Truck Shop

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    A great place to settle is ND, SD, Mont, NEB, OK, WY. Wide open, cheap housing
    and the best of neighbors, they will even help you unload your stuff and provide
    a free first dinner.
     
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    Come on down! There's plenty of work, good cheap living, and plenty good looking women with daddy issues. LOL its paradise!!
     
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    And free beer!
     
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    haha wife might have an issue with moving for available women.

    She came up with a plan to shove all of the things we want to keep, that are worth keeping, into a storage unit. Pack the basics in out travel trailer and stay at a KOA place while she house hunts and I work. Biggest issue right now is fitting my tool boxes into the move, trailer door is only 23" wide and my boxes are all 30" deep, oops.
     
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    Well not bad not bad
     
  18. stinky64

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    Did you say FREE BEER and needy women? Looks like I'm coming out of retirement and moving to Oklahoma. You do need an assistant right? With those kind of benefits I'll work nights,weekends and holidays.
     
  19. Zewnten

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    So back on the topic of employers. Anyone have an opinion on Foley Cat vs Roadbuilders Komatsu? They're both making similar offers, but Foley is field and Roadbuilders is shop to start with an eye on me going to the field. The field manager at Foley seems straight forward. The issue with Roadbuilders is other than "hi" I never heard a word from the shop manager, so I've got no idea on his temperament. Any experiences or rumors?
     
  20. crane operator

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    Shouldn't field pay a little more?