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D6c cat loss of oil pressure

Discussion in 'Dozers' started by Steve.ahlgren85, Nov 13, 2016.

  1. kshansen

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    I'm sure I've said it at least once before: A problem with rocker arms is NOT going to be the cause for a cylinder having a piston seize!

    Sure it will cause problems like worn rocker arm bushings worn shaft and maybe even some valve guide wear after a period of time. By a period of time I would say several hours or more and that is assuming absolutely no oil was getting to the rocker arms. Just the normal amout of oil one might put on during assembly would be good for a bit of running.

    Anyone who claims otherwise needs to give me a good explanation of how this would happen.

    How bad of a mechanic did they have working on this machine that they would not even work the machine enough to get it to operating temperature before dumping it on your lap? Just reading back some and see again that their road man can out with the BS story about wrong size pistons shows me they don't know what they are doing. If you have any paper work from that trip they made I would keep it and make sure your lawyer sees it and print out all this thread to let him hear from some of those who do know what they are talking about!
     
  2. oldirt

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    THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.. they saw this poor farmer coming and decided to tune him up good.
     
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  3. Steve.ahlgren85

    Steve.ahlgren85 Senior Member

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    I called them and we
     
  4. Steve.ahlgren85

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    I meant to say that I called them this morning and we settled the dispute between us .It is not the outcome that either party wanted ,but I don't want to get into a legal battle and neither did they ,so this thread is FINALLY over!Thanks again for all of your comments and suggestions ,many I didn't heed, sorry ,but I must move on .
     
  5. Hobbytime

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    you cant leave us hanging after all this time..what was the out come?
     
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    Good grief, you gotta tell us what the final outcome was.
     
  7. Steve.ahlgren85

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    They forgave a lot of the first rebuild charges ,I ended up owing them some money but manageable for me ,and my marriage is still intact!!That is the most important thing. My life partner is my best friend. I have a real winner for a wife. I just have to find another d6c to play with!!Thanks again. ...
     
  8. thepumpguysc

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    MY GOD MAN.. just kick us in the nuts why dontcha.??
    We/some have stuck w/ you for the last couple of YEARS.!!!!! & your just gonna walk away??
    Your "some kinda special"..
     
  9. Hobbytime

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    when you say you owe them some money is that after they keep the dozer? or you have it back and owe them....just put the numbers out there, it will only hurt once...
     
  10. oldirt

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    here is my guess.. he GIVES them the tractor, and pays about 9500 bucks.
     
  11. John Shipp

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    Does not compute.

    How do you send a tractor for a fix, then find out you owe them the tractor and a lump of money in return? Can't quite get my head round that one.

    What kind of a world do we live in?
     
  12. Vetech63

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    Why does this seem like a troll thread now?
     
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    [QUOTE="Steve.ahlgren85, post: 738851,---> I just have to find another d6c to play with!! Thanks again. ...[/QUOTE]
    SAY WHAT !!!!! Find another D6c ??? This whole thing wasn't making any kind of sense to me. Now it is unbelievable when you don't explain what the hell the settlement was. IF THERE WAS ONE !!

    Troll thread indeed vetech63 !
     
  14. Welder Dave

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    Steve you owe it to all the people who have tried to help and guide you in this long painful process. Please tell us the final outcome. Nobody blames you for walking away but your experience could really help someone else in the future. What were they disputing? You took a machine to them to get fixed and they couldn't or didn't fix it. That's not your fault.
     
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  15. Steve.ahlgren85

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    My choices were #1 Pay Ziegler for the first rebuild $10,641,and take the machine home disassembled. #2 pay another $14,255 to rebuild it again, totaling $24,896.
    ,first rebuild plus second rebuild.They are not going to cover the costs on the second rebuild because they don't see it as a quality of workmanship issue. They were not looking any where past the rocker assembly installation incorrectly, which was my fault .They did run it outside ,did a stall test ,and past inspection, so they sent it out to me.#3 option was to let them buy it from me, reducing the transport costs ,two times to my farm 35 miles, one way, also reduce the machine diagnostics costs, making my payout to them of approximately ,$4,000.Chris was supposed to email me the total amount this afternoon, but he must have gotten tied up. I am giving them my machine plus $4,000 .I know it is not right ,but I don't want a legal battle .You guys deserve some figures and it is what it is .I just don't trust that machine to not fail again. I can't afford to have this happen again so I am washing my hands on this machine..Any more questions, feel free to ask!
     
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    I'd have been in an attorneys office that HOUR, been on the phone with that attorney to Cat the next. They just robbed you and STOLE that machine.
     
  17. Welder Dave

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    They'll probably stick another engine in it at their cost and make a huge profit on it. Most lawyers will give a free 1/2 hour consultation. I think this dealer is gambling you wouldn't take them to court. I thought they offered to buy machine? Not making you pay $4000 for them to take it. Hope you didn't sign anything. Even 1 or 2K at the lawyers is still less than the 4k you gave them. The rest of the machine has to be worth as much as the engine. I agree they stole your machine. What ever you do don't sign anything or give them any money and TALK to a lawyer. What they did may even be illegal and they can be prosecuted. THEY SCREWED UP!!! not you. Don't let them get away with it.
     
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  18. Hobbytime

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    dont laugh but start a " go fund me page" you should see some of the lame stuff people collect a fortune on, just put your long sad story on and im willing to venture you would collect a pretty penny..go look at some of the go fund me pages...
     
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    I cannot imagine the mental turmoil you and your wife have gone through with this ordeal.
    Have you totaled up the entire amount of what you have lost including the value of the D6 before those idiots transported it off of your farm the first time ?
     
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    I don't blame you for walking away.. It's probably donna sting for a long time..
    Just don't buy another POS..
    or the next time you come here looking for "help".. all you'll hear are crickets..
    cuz to be brutally honest> you didn't follow our advise from the start & your not gonna follow it in the end.{lawyer}
    I know FOR A FACT, that if you take them to court, you'll win.. simply because, they know they were wrong & banking on you walking away.. & IF you decided to pursue the matter.. they wouldn't take it any further & pay you 10K to "go away".. cuz its ALOT cheaper than getting THEIR lawyers & insurance company involved.!!!
    I've seen it happen atleast 10x in the co I worked for.. 10K use to fly out the door on a regular basis.. w/ a fixed machine !!!!!!
     
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