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Cummins 8.3 to M11

Discussion in 'Trucks' started by 72hayes, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. 72hayes

    72hayes Well-Known Member

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    I have a T300 Kenworth with a 8.3 Cummins and was wondering about repowering with a M11.
    It has an Allison trany.
    Has anyone done this?
     
  2. DMiller

    DMiller Senior Member

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    Talking two completely Different engine breeds, different design criteria and different dimensions. The 8.3 is around 1700 lbs. the M11 near to a full ton, physically the M11 is longer wider and taller. Then there is the base difference, you will not achieve the vehicle speed from the 8.3 at 2500rpm going to a M11 at 1800-2000. One is a heavy ton truck typical where the other is used from 2 1/2 to 5 ton trucks and light day cab tractor trailer machines. The Allison may not be compatible with the M11 for shift points and mounting. Will also be cooling system requirements changes.
     
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  3. Wes J

    Wes J Senior Member

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    I would think the best place to start would be determining if the M11 was ever offered in a T300. If it was, it can physically be done. Surely money ahead to just buy one ready to go.

    I've driven several tandem dumps with the 8.3. It's a zippy engine when empty. Not enough torque to run loaded on any kind of grade. I once stalled one on a steep hill totally empty. Couldn't down shift fast enough...
     
  4. petepilot

    petepilot Senior Member

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    do not think m-11 was available in a t-300