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Cost to repaint/recondition excavator

Discussion in 'General Industry Questions' started by Nathan A Trahan, Oct 23, 2021.

  1. Nathan A Trahan

    Nathan A Trahan Member

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    Any have some post experience with this? I've got 2007 Kobelco 210LC with practically brand new undercarriage, partially reconditioned motor, total hours are 5500. Very good running machine. Just curious as to what cost to bring it back to life. New paint, some new sheet metal(dents) and some upholstery. Probably new seat. I'm out of Houston Texas. Thanks
     
  2. CM1995

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    Welcome to the Forums Nathan! Glad to have you.

    What do plan on doing with the machine? A 2007 with 5500 hours is going to be tough recoup the money spent to repaint with today's cost.

    Seat's are not that complicated, a local upholstery shop can do that including the foam just need to provide them the metal pan of the seat.

    Sheet metal outside of a junk yard will be very expensive and finding "unbent" panels in a junkyard on a 14 year old machine is a needle in a hay stack. Might want to find a local sheet metal/fab shop that can make some new panels.

    As far as the paint goes rattle cans work for us however we bring our machines in at least once a year to beat out dents, weld, bondo and touch up paint in order to keep them presentable. Rattle canning an entire machine is not something I would suggest.:p
     
  3. cosmaar1

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    Personally speaking, your money would be better spent fixing hoses, changing fluids, etc.

    If I had to guess, you are probably looking at 15-20k if not more. Lot of man hours for pressure washing, degreasing, removing hoses and reinstalling, painting, supplies, etc.
     
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    Doing a spray job will be a lot of work. A lot of prep work. And covering and taping.
    If you want easier, maybe roll the paint on. Use fine foam rollers which give a pretty smooth finish. Last couple machines I painted, I used Sherwin-Williams Hi-solids polyurethane, which you can spray or roll.
    Just make sure you clean and degrease the old paint good. Try to sand and prime any rust with a spray can.
     
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    why spend money on lipstick, save your money and fix what breaks and just run it, lipstick dont make it run better
     
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  6. Nathan A Trahan

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    Instead of it being a $40k machine due to its current appeal, I believe it would be back around $60k or better after the revamp. I take pride in my equipment, mechanically, and appearance. Oil and gas industry rather new equipment on the job. So I'm trying to have this thing looking it's best.
     
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  7. Nathan A Trahan

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    Kind of an idea of the shape.
     

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    You could do a half decent job for little cost. Seems in decent shape just faded paint. Bondo/pull dents and just tape off things like hoses, etc. And if it's purely for looks you can save a fair amount of effort skipping areas like top of boom etc. I am planning to do my Volvo 210 this winter boom is fine I just want to fix a few dents in panels and repaint counterweight. It's amazing how much difference a few days work and few hundred bucks in paint will make.

    If you're expecting to make a $40k machine a $60k machine though I doubt a paint job will do it and to have any hope of increasing that kind of value the paint job would have to look like new which will cost you hundreds of hours of labor. Based on your pictures, that machine looks decent I doubt it will increase value much. Maybe $5k if you did a fairly decent job?
     
  9. cosmaar1

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    All I know is when I see fresh paint on an old machine, I run for the hills. IMO you think by painting you are adding value as you are making it look nicer, but in reality you are making things worse off and scaring potential buyers away.

    just my 2C
     
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    The good old "20-gallon overhaul" - guaranteed to generate the run as far and as fast as you can in the opposite direction reaction in most people who know equipment.
     
  11. Nathan A Trahan

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    I'm not trying to buy, paint, sell like all the other crooks I've dealt with over the years. I just know how good of shape (mechanically) this machine is in and Instead of having to buy a new machine to be brought into a oil/gas facility. I want to repaint, re-upholster mine so that it looks new. So the questions won't be raised by reps on the condition of the machines I'm bringing on locations.
     
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    You are trying to put lipstick on a pig. After you get the lipstick applied, it's still a pig.

    First thing that will happen after you spend the long dollars on a new paint job is you will have the opportunity to buy a much newer hoe for a reasonable price. You will sell your old hoe for less money than it was worth before the paint job.

    But redo the seat. Your ass will thank you every day.
     
  13. Nathan A Trahan

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    I like to think of my ol'girl as a brunette after a long night out. She's ruffed up but all she needs is a little "lipstick" to get back right! Lol
     
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    If your planning on keeping it then paint it, it will make you love it again. I work on a few of that model with Well over 20000 hours. A few of my costumers traded in really good machines cos they were getting old and looked a little rough. Now they own really pretty machines that are brokedown every few weeks with emissions problem.
     
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    Not sure about pricing over there but a costumer painted his machine last year. He fitted two new rear door panels 1100 euros each from dealer. Repainted whole machine from new Holland yellow to kobelco blue Inc. all new decals for 4500 euros. The machine looked brand new afterwards
     
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    :D HA! At least she'll crank when our 325FL is down again for emissions problems..:rolleyes::mad:
     
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    I don't know about the oilfield, but around here none of the pipeline outfits own any iron. They just bring hands and tools, and have United Rentals, Cat, or some other house deliver and pick up the iron.
     
  18. Nathan A Trahan

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    You're exactly right! I just purchased a 1998 D5M cat. My favorite thing about it is the cable for the throttle!! No buttons or potentiometers!
     
  19. Nathan A Trahan

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    Alot I know of own a few and rent a bunch like you're saying.
     
  20. suladas

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    Big difference between slapping some paint on a old POS, and re-painting a good machine properly to make it look better. One is a waste of time, the other will result in increasing the machines value. If they do a good enough job, work it for a few months 99.99% of people would never know it was painted and could easily assume it was just parked inside and really looked after.

    Here's one example. Pictures can be deceiving but the new paint makes the machine look a lot better and from what the pictures show, it was actually a decent job. They had a few old pictures up before, and the house is improved 100 fold.

    https://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipment-machinery/calgary/2006-hitachi-200-excavator/1589422727
     
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