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Come on Spring

Discussion in 'General Industry Questions' started by cuttin edge, Feb 22, 2019.

  1. cuttin edge

    cuttin edge Senior Member

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    Snow took a beating on Sunday. It was plus 16 or 60. Calling for a foot Wednesday. Hope they didn't take the snow tires off my loader
     
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    So they did take the snow tires off my loader. Makes me wonder how I ever got by without them. On the plus side, the temps are on the plus side. I see parts of Newfoundland got 40 to 50cm or 16 to 20 inches the other day. The long range forecast is calling for a week of rain, so good bye snow, hope the ice runs smoothly without flooding. Had my spring safety orientation this week, first aid in 2 weeks. The province is putting out 0 paving jobs this year, and no funding, so I doubt there will be any paving of city streets this year. Even if they do, competition will be tight as other contractors seem to be willing to work for nothing if there is no work in their area. Hope there are lots of people wanting their driveways paved this year. Come on spring.
     
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    It's in the 80s here. Was 91 on monday.

    I can't even imagine having a 6 month season with no work. I'm praying for your spring as well.
     
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    91, geez thats a hazy memory nearly all of our snow is gone now though.
     
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    Snow isn't gone in northern New Hampshire. South facing slopes are getting bare but there is still a couple feet of snow in the woods. Had to move snow piles to find places to stack firewood.
     
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    I am south of you... but not so far as to have the gun laws go stupid LOL!
     
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    I spent the better part of last week planting veggies in my garden..
    I had to stop several days in a row around 2:pm because of the heat..
    Spring has sprung in the South..
     
  8. cuttin edge

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    There is always a risk of frost here until the new moon in June. No tender plants till then
     
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    Spring weight restrictions normally start in the middle of March, and run till around the 20th of May. A few jobs might go on before that but you can't move any big machinery before the restrictions lift. Larger projects can run all winter. Just depends on how much frost, and snow. Paving season runs from May till it gets too cold in November. My grader sits from then until May.
     
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    Wow! That's a ton of down time.

    Do you do rejuve spraying as well? If they have heavy haul restrictions, my guess would be they spray the AC to make it stay more flexible at least once a year. That stuff is good money.
     
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    Never heard of it. The frost can go into the ground pretty deep in winter. Since the roads are plowed, they have more exposure to the cold. Once the ground starts to thaw, the material under the pave gets wet then freezes at night. The pave starts to heave from the thawing and freezing. We can scale a lot more weight in Canada then you guys I'm told. I once spoke to a couple of American driver's on the ferry to Prince Edward Island. We figured out that I could legally haul their load plus their truck and wagon. Could be why our roads are in such bad shape
     
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    Ya, in wet, snowy areas here, they use an ac reconditioning spray that puts soybean oil back into the dry tar of the top 1/4 to 1/2 inch of the road. Helps prevent cracking because the wet and cold sucks the oils out of the ac.

    In those climates, it makes it worth it since they get 5-10 more years out of new ac. Where I am, it's considered an unnecessary expense because it's almost always dry.

    They use a GPS controlled agriculture sprayer system to lay it down even.
     
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  13. cuttin edge

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    Ok, never heard of it. I thought you meant that crap they go around telling people is driveway sealer. They cut it with diesel and spray it on your asphalt. We use fuel to clean up tools after paving, so imagine what it does to your driveway. Years ago they would lay ten inches of pave on a road, but now the high traffic roads get five and a half and secondary roads get three and a half. Not a lot considering we do two and a half in a driveway. They claim that for every inch of pave, gives you a year without cracking. They want you to compact it so much that the roller almost cracks it anyway.
     
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    Haha, ya.... it's similar, just different ingredients.

    I went on a demo for a city close by. Its citrus degreaser with soybean oil in it. Likely literally the same with cleaner ingredients. I would guess it's the same concept, but non hazardous(and likely an arm and a leg more expensive).
     
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    Yeah, when the gypo(or even some of the big guys) guys around here say they'll give you two inches you're lucky to get one....
     
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    This girl, she's got the right idea
     
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    I was visiting my sister in Ontario, and one of her neighbors were getting their driveway done. I watched the guys tear out the old driveway and make ready for new pave. Guy on the skid steer did an awsome job. Then 4 guys raked a trench down both sides, about 2 inches deep and 6 inches wide. Thought they were doing a 4 inch thickening at the shoulder. Never saw that before. When they paved, I checked it and it was 3 and a half inches. Same company did my sister's spot the next summer. Her estimate told her a minimum thickness of 3.5 inches. I told her what they did to the neighbors, so when they started raking out the edges, told the white hat, I know what you're doing. Do you want me to tell the neighbors they only have half the asphalt they paid for in their driveway? They raked their trench back in. She told the guy she knew it was 3 and a half rolled and she would be checking the sides and she ha d a 12 foot straight edge for the center.
     
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    We demo a lot of old driveways/parking lots and it's all over the place what some companies will put down.... or not put down ;) Some of the guys around here will do what they call a 'pie crust fix' they come in and rip out or grind about an inch more or less then just put a new inch(more or less) back in..... no digging to fix the soupy/pumpy spots in the subgrade or anything like that...
     
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    We do recaps If someone just wants to freshen up the look, or slight wear or light cracks. Small ruts or low spots get padded in then 1.5 inch cap is added. If the asphalt is all gone to pot, it's priced for digout, undercut the soft spots, cloth if needed refill, regrade compact and repave as per agreement. Our crushed gravel is a byproduct of our asphalt aggergate so it's basically waste, so no one complains if I go over on the crushed.