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Clark Michigan 210

Discussion in 'Scrapers' started by seatwarmer, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. seatwarmer

    seatwarmer Senior Member

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    Who operated Clark Michigan 210's ?
    And yes I have never operated any type of scrapers, just CAT D8Ks and D6Cs.
     
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    Did in the early '80's. Walker beam suspension, Hancock bowl, 300 hp straight 6 turbo Cummins but only a little cabin. Powershift with lock up transmission that could give some grief but overall, better than equivilent feline brand of scrapers !Bk7MOsw!mk~$(KGrHqQOKiwEtk6dnLhpBLZhMKnFG!~~_12.jpg
     
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    Thank you Russ
    The 4 i'm interested in is 210s not 210H's.
    But I supposed the suspension should be the same.
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    Where I've worked, elevator models were all the rage before laser bucket and 4wd tractor combinations became the norm for broad acre land levelling, that was when lasers where in their infancy in the early '80s 210H at Wee Waa.jpg This actual machine was one I used to operate back then. Some on here suggest, it should dissolve back into the tar pits with all the other dinosaus:(
    I'd say the tractor would be the same as the open bowl models. In the factory, back then, I've been told if the machine turned right it became a terrex, turn left it was a michigan/clark.
    The elevator models took a bit more skill to operate, not just dig and dump;)
     
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    Maybe we should ask Terexkerry opinion on the left and right turns at the factory :rolleyes:
    Its interesting that there is very little information on Michigan/clark on the internet.
    The owners of the 4 Michigan 210's reckon theirs are the only ones in South Africa and when they bought them in the 70's they were cheaper than the felines and green lizards.
     
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    Maybe we should ask Terexkerry opinion on the left and right turns at the factory :rolleyes:
    Its interesting that there is very little information on Michigan/clark on the internet.
    The owners of the 4 Michigan 210's reckon theirs are the only ones in South Africa and when they bought them in the 70's they were cheaper than the felines and green lizards.
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    More Clark/Michigans from Australia

    110-15B and 623B.jpg Another pic from the archives, about 1980. Your 210's look like they're GM powered by the look of it. The little brother of the 210H, the 110-15B had 6V71 and an 8 speed lock up tranny. Very good for land levelling, pre laser days too.
     
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    Russ is that you in the photo ?
    a good operator is better than all the technology :drinkup
     
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    Wabco 101F coming at you.jpg I'm here, but in that picture no, I took it and was up on the service trailer
     
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    On a Wabco ?
    Which do you prefer ? Wabco or Clark/Terex ?
     
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    Must like the Wabco as I own one

    101F with C Series.jpg g 50
    Well, I was after a 110-11B Michigan/Clark but couldn't find one at a realistic price back in '05 but found the 101F (travelling sh!thouse) :rolleyes:with a cactus elevator drive for what I thought was reasonable $$ then, against what the dealers were asking. Both Wabco and Michigan have hancock bowls but the michigan has a better elevator drive. A clark loader diff with a hydraulic drive in the centre of elevator frame. So much power, clods of dirt could hit the back window of the cab while loading. We knew them as "the angry ants" back in their day.

    Both had mongrel oil leaking 504 cummins engines :eek: which were their downfall. I repowered the 101 with a C series,:D half the fuel consumption better torque and a few more hp but not as fast on the haul but who hauls long distance with only 11yd3 on board. 2250 max rpm against 2700 max of the 504.

    A KAB suspension seat from a Case magnum tractor gives a much improved ride.:D

    As far as terrex goes, only ever saw one 23yd3 elevator out here in the 80's. All our levelling work was done with elevators or as the USA boys refer to them as paddle wheelers, before laser bucket (pans) drawn by Steiger 4wd tractors predominated the scene.
     
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    I have a Hancock michigan 110-15 I bought a year ago for scrap prices, it has the 6v71 sure does sound good when she is screaming. One of the smoothes scrapers I own, but I am comparing it to our two 613s I have. Next week we have a big job I will snap some pics of her in action.
     
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    What's the last two digits on the id plate behind the cab? The 110-15B's in the previous pic were two of a consecutive order of 8 from the factory, delivered early 1980 through Morgan equipment Qld. The last numbers on the id plate ran from 37 to 44. The last on had its cab damaged whilst unloading on the wharf so ran without a cab for a few months. Although a bit warm out in the open it was the only one with a Bostrom "norseman seat".
    These machines had suspension, copied by C@t on their 615's some years later. The 15's were brilliant mid capacity elevating scrapers in their day.
    Suspension adjustment was done by loosening nut around a cap head screw on the inner left mudguard, screw it in till the suspension topped out, then back off the caphead screw to drop the suspension 1" then lock up the nut. They rode as well as cushion hitch.
     
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    We will be working her next week it is on the job waiting for us to move some dirt with her, I will look at the I'd plate for you, and let you know. For a 15. Yard scraper this thing is a beast, long as you have two pairs of ear plugs, that Detroit sure is a screamer.
     
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    Early or late 110-15 ?

    Yours would probably be the earlier model, before the B. The B's had a beefed up elevator frame, made of square section steel whereas the older model had a pipe style frame and lighter duty flights. The older model needed gussets under curved section of the hitch/draft arm too. The B's had them as an update. Also there was a cabin support bar, across the rear, that rattled on both models. Some people removed them but it's an integral part of the structure. The cab wasn't a true R.O.P.S. either.
    The main pump was a huge Sunstrand brand. Sometimes when they were overhauled, a metal ball on the end of the actuating arm was left out. Without it, nothing happens, so don't do a pump rebuild before you check that little item :Banghead
    Good luck next week :)
     
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    I finally got around to snapping some pics of our hancock scraper, sorry it took so long. We had her on a house pad job that required us to haul in 3000 yards with our scrapers from the back of his orchard. Sorry there is no action shots.
     

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    That's a great machine. Thanks for sharing your photos.
     
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    that would be the hancock bowl on terrex s24 primover to make the s23 put two to gether in brisbane in 1977
     
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    Im curious about this s23 thing? Up here an s 23 would have a ts18 type tractor.