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Cat 951-C in my sights

Discussion in 'Track Loaders' started by Nitelite, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. Nitelite

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    I had more post with pictures but they failed to show up on the thread.
     
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    Ok here is another try!

    Pushing dirt over the edge from above and then working with the loader to carry it away to use as fill in a hollow, about thirty to forty yards, seems to make the best time. I am not moving dirt far enough for my one man operation to use the dump truck.
     

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    As you reach the edge of your cut where you wish the building to sit you may consider sloping off the cut to allow drainage, maybe over cover with 4-6" clean rock on a weed barrier cloth to eliminate the need to mow or maybe set a shortish retainer wall/foundation for the back wall to hold the spoil back. Would also give shorter height access to roof top for later maintenance.
     
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    Miller, I am kind of thinking about a three step terrace to turn the water and then a short rock wall . I would like to leave enough room to drive between the back of the building and the retainer. The weed barrier sounds sounds good. I don't really have a solid plan on the termination of the slope yet, just figuring it out as I go along as is my first rodeo on a project of this kind.

    I have also considered using the back wall of the new building as the retainer. That would take a 12" block rear wall with rebar and concrete filled block on the first four or five courses of concrete block with a rebar reinforced bond beam on the top course . Water proofing would need to be really tough using mastic and pre molded membrane then back filled with rock. The terraces above would need to slope down and back toward the bank, away from the building to turn the water before it got that far down the hill. This method would of course eliminate driving all the way around the building though. This will be a mostly metal building so the rear short block wall would be the foundation to anchor the rear metal wall.
     
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    Sounds like you already have a handle on it!
     
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    Well, there will be no dirt work being done around these parts for a while. The rain and storms going through the area for the last three days will make sure of that!
     
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    Still pushing clay. At this time the clay is at about the optimum consistency to really work good and not stick in the bucket of the loader or the blade of the dozer. Tracks are also not loading up too bad. Mechanically everything is holding together and the machines are preforming as they should. Knock on wood!
     
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    Sounds good. Just read an article in the paper this morning saying that many of the farmers around here are about 2 weeks behind on planting due to the wet weather we have been having. I was noticing just yesterday how many fields did not have any green showing, most that I'm assuming are corn. The old saying of "Knee high by the 4th of July" is not going to happen at that rate. Usually the corn around these parts is closer to waist high by then, this year will be lucky if it's up to your ankles!
     
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    You know Ken, it was my intention from the start of this adventure to buy the machined and do my own work to save some money and then sell the machines. I bought the machines and spent a lot of time and money getting them put back in dependable working condition. At this point I will have to say that they both have paid their way out. If both needed to be scrapped I would still be ahead. I am expecting much more work from both of them and I feel like they are up to the task, with a reasonable amount of TLC.

    At this point I wouldn't consider selling either one of them. They are handy to have around and, like an old dog, have earned their keep for the money that they have saved me. Also, I have to say that if I had not been able to do the wrenching and maintenance myself It would be a different story. Old iron is a gamble and just like gambling, never invest more than you are willing to loose. I wish that I could do as well playing black jack in the casino!
     
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    I have been moving a lot of dirt lately. I am working at it about four hours a session. I have been using the D-4 dozer one day and then going back to the 951 loader the next day. I really can't say which machine moves the most dirt with the same amount of work, time, and fuel. Both machines are doing all that I can ask of them. I had a large white oak stump to dig out today and I was using the loader. Last week I had another white oak stump about the same size and I was using the dozer to dig it out. Hands down, the loader was quicker and more efficient for the stump removal job.
     
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    I can see the loader working better if you get a bite on the stump with the teeth then roll the bucket back while pushing to lift it out of the ground.
    Have a couple stumps in the yard I'd like to get rid off but no equipment to do it. The biggest is from a poplar tree so it is slowly taking care of it's self as they rot pretty fast. Every now and then I have at it with the chain saw to open up new places for water to get in and do the work.
     
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    wouldnt sell mine either only used it 3 times since last fall. had 4.5 ft diameter oak tree die and was leaning over my house had to crack the throttle a little more than usual but pushed it over a whole lot cheaper than calling tree service. yes i do have pics if i can get my son here long enough to post them. D75S had just about all it wanted with tree on the ground
     
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    Ouch, that hurt. My bucket just broke! Prying in hard clay and it just popped. It had been repaired there once before I think. Someone had done some welding there in the past.
    Would you try repairing the bucket or replace it. I have several calls out for a used bucket but I have not been able to located one yet. No idea of a price when and if I do find one.
    Does anyone know if that same bucket fits other model loaders?
     

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    That one may be a real challenge having had the floor folded. May want to set it off on a trailer and see if any weld shops will take that on as it will be more than just welding back up. A good used bucket may be no better and cost a small fortune besides. Took me a decent month of steady on actual work to re-floor and re-sidewall my own bucket. I had braced it prior to floor and side panel removals as well. Hard part is finding a depth of cutback as to where to start rebuilding.
     
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    If I don't find a reasonable priced used bucket I will be rebuilding the old one myself. I know that it will be time consuming but I have time and I think that I could do a decent job with it.
     

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    wow, that musta hurt, everything is fixable...if you ever wanted a 4 way bucket, nows the time to make the decision..fix or replace..either way I would probably fix it and have a spare if you did go the 4 way bucket route..
     
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    Appears it has been cracked/ripping for some time, probably hidden beneath old welds. Could try to fold it back with pressure of the machine first to somewhat flatten the folded edge then tack it followed by setting it off inside for some serious gouge and weld time. Laying a reinforcement underpan to that floor could extend its life, just get it clean before getting into it.
     
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    Yikes, that is a real ouchie for sure!! That is going to be a challenge to fix, but if you are persistent & take your time it can be done. Do you have a DC welder? I think an option would be to look for a used bucket if available. I wonder if the loader arm spacing & pin size is the same as a 941, as I think the 941 was more common & more buckets may be out there. I believe the 941 is 1 1/4 yds & 951 is 1 1/2 yds. If I know the measurements from your loader arm spacing & pin sizes, I could check mine for you, as mine is a 941?
     
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    If the bucket sides are still good, you can probably cut the bottom square at the back and weld a new floor in. You may even be able to cut off the old cutting edge and teeth and reuse them. If you do rebuild what you have, make some gussets for the front corners out of plate. You'll need a rosebud or maybe you could get a fab shop to bend them in a press. Basically you take a plate and bend it to fit the 90 deg. corner where the cutting edge meets the side and weld it in all around on the inside. It's hard to tell but it doesn't look like the bucket has any wear strips on the bottom. They would help a lot too. 2 on the outside edge and another 2 in middle. Would be a good idea to weld a temporary brace between the side plates so they stay straight. I think there was somebody on this forum who rebuilds a lot of buckets and posted a bunch of pics.
     
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    We have been waiting for update on that bucket repair job Nitelite? Any progress to report on?