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Cat 3304 fuel injection pump and governor

kshansen

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One more thing that may be of some help.

The pages out of the Operation manual that shows where to find S/N's
Not the clearest images but might give a hint as to where to look!
 

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Aieknocker47

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Well hope this does not muddy the waters or gunk up the pump any more but I'm attaching a fie of the first 39 pages of a SystemsOp I found while digging around on the 951C and the 6N0275 numbers.

Not that it shows a few different versions of the sleeve metering fuel systems and it does appear that some do and some don't have return lines to the tank.

A Full serial number off the machine might lead to more information on how this particular machine was built.
Here are the numbers:
Cat 951C-86J5055-3V3020
Engine 78P46777-7N1521
 

thepumpguysc

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You've probably figured it out by now but.. in the pic on the 1st page.. the rod that goes from top to bottom..in the upper part of the rod is a "bell connector".. that links the gov to the pump..
THATS a straight link to the pump control rack..
Move it up & down & check for freedom of movement.. THATS whats moving the metering sleeves up & down on the plungers..
IF THATS FREE u wont have any problems..
U may hafta take the cover off the pump to clean that area{plungers}..again..??
 

Aieknocker47

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That gook looked like bits of soft plastic. Biological I presume. But the asphaltine coating cleaned up easily with Penray Total Diesel Fuel System Cleaner and a small bristle brush. Flushed it all with mineral spirits. I found the specific problem with starting. In this photo, see the partially pulled out shaft with a somewhat L shaped fitting. When the fuel control lever is moved to shutdown, that shaft is mechanically rotated clockwise (as viewed). This then physically forces the sleeve control shaft to move the sleeves down on the injectors, spilling the fuel, stopping the engine. It is a mechanical connection, and the sleeves must be moved, or something will bend or break. When the fuel control is moved out of the off position, the pin that rotated the above mentioned shaft moves away, allowing a "torsion spring" on the sleeve control shaft to move the sleeves up, and allow fuel to be injected. This spring is fairly weak. That shaft was so stiff from the gunk that although the mechanism could move it to spill fuel, the spring would not consistently move it back. I didn't tear it apart, merely cleaned it up, including the bore of the shaft, and reassembled, with new gaskets.

Starts easy, and restarts easy. Thanks to all of you for your input. IMG_20200208_121624149.jpg
 

Aieknocker47

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That is a sleeve metering unit, sensitive to bad fuel, water, rust and deposits, anything that would cause sticking. Flyweights are enclosed behind that dome shaped cover. There should be a working back pressure bleed return flow to the fuel tank to help with circulation and venting of any air.
Turns out the pump and governor are full of fuel. Since there is no return to the tank, the governor has a channel returning the pressure from the pump housing to the supply bore in the housing, thus the governor part of the housing, while kept full of fuel, isn't under pressure. This allows for circulation of fuel through the governor.
 

Old Magnet

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Turns out the pump and governor are full of fuel. Since there is no return to the tank, the governor has a channel returning the pressure from the pump housing to the supply bore in the housing, thus the governor part of the housing, while kept full of fuel, isn't under pressure. This allows for circulation of fuel through the governor.

Would you please indicate where that channel/passage is on one of your pictures. Thanks
 
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