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Cat 262C driveability/fuel issues

phil314

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I don't know 262c specifically.
But if you don't know when the hydraulic filter was last change, that would be a good idea regardless.

Are you getting any warning codes/lights?
When the machine stops moving, do the bucket and arms still work?
 

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" a heavy equip tech told you".. EVERYBODY KNOWS they don't know sh*t. Lol.!!! {HEF}
.. Do you have a tach in your daily driver, car or truck??
If you run outta gas/ fuel.. the rpms drop & the ENGINE shuts off, right?
YOUR machine isn't loosing rpm's.. it just stops MOVING.. & you can still throttle up or down..
 

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Hi ,I would still check your fuel pressure .reason being the machine has a feature called the under speed control .this feature will derate the hydrostatic drive system (go slower) to maintain set engine rpm.
if fuel pressure doesn't gradually drop off, then I would consider checking the hydrostatic system
Mark
 

hermannea

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I don't know 262c specifically.
But if you don't know when the hydraulic filter was last change, that would be a good idea regardless.

Are you getting any warning codes/lights?
When the machine stops moving, do the bucket and arms still work?[/QUOTE
hyd filter has about 250 hrs on it. There are no warning lights/codes, i'll have to check the arms still working. if i remember correctly they do, just slowly... tech is on his way out to look at it today.
 

hermannea

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Field Tech was out today again with Cat ET scanner, machine isn't throwing any codes or showing any events... LH joystick showed it was slightly out of calibration. Best guess was that it was LH joystick related...?
Is there anywhere to purchase a used joystick to confirm? Cat price is $660
 

Munga22

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Hi hermannea, Where you able to find the source of the problem with your 262? I’m having the same problem with my 262 now and was also told that it was the LH pilot control valve. $1000 later plus labor and it wasn’t the issue. I also changes the parking brake solenoid with no luck either.
 

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Hi hermannea, Where you able to find the source of the problem with your 262? I’m having the same problem with my 262 now and was also told that it was the LH pilot control valve. $1000 later plus labor and it wasn’t the issue. I also changes the parking brake solenoid with no luck either.

Hey Munga22,
Mine turned out to be the o-ring between the fuel filter and the water separator bowl.
Two visits from two different techs, two different answers, $1200 later no better. $1.00 o-ring at NAPA fixed it.
I have a perfectly good used LH joystick for sale if you’re interested... :)
 

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Thanks for the reply hermannea. I changed the fuel filter today but unfortunately I wasn’t as lucky as you. I’m pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. I also have a LH joystick in perfect working condition. So, if you find someone looking for two, let me know. Lol
 

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Thanks for the reply hermannea. I changed the fuel filter today but unfortunately I wasn’t as lucky as you. I’m pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. I also have a LH joystick in perfect working condition. So, if you find someone looking for two, let me know. Lol
How much are you asking for the LH joystick?
 

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Any update on this ,my machine has exactly the same issue ,engine RPMs good but the machine just slows down and stops...

Very Strange?
Help Appreciated Andrew
 

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G'day from Australia. Cat 277C 2012 model.
Hate to add to an old thread but rather than start a new one, I'm hoping someone may spot this and offer some assistance. My machine only has 700 hrs, vineyard use rather than heavy daily work. Last week I was pushing up a bunch of vines to a fire pile and after working for an hour revs started to drop and I lost all forward speed. I can get a little backwards and then forwards again, but RPM's are limited and under full throttle, barley any lift in RPM, a bit of white smoke and no drive.

I walked away for a lunch hour and managed to get the machine back to the shed and the next day totally cold I got the job done, but coming back to the shed, lost forward momentum and RPM's again.

Ordered a new fuel / water separator filter which was just as well as today I'm taking a few branches to the fire pile and moving some woodchips and it died again. Worse this time, the engine actually stalled out. So on the side of the track I replaced the fuel/water filter, cleaned the bowl, drained the tank and filled with a fresh 20 liters of fuel. The unit primed and moved forwards about 20 feet, then died again. I started it after a bit and it moved forwards another 20 feet, then started running fine and I moved it about 80m at good throttle and speed up to the sheds. Then it lost forward momentum again and stalled. Now it wont start. Seems very similar to both of the previous incidents written here.
 

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Next time this happens & shuts off, turn the key off immediately ..
Then jump off and yank the filter off.. SEE if it full or empty..
If it’s empty, u can probably blame something in the tank or the supply pump.. I’m assuming it’s electric.?
Can u LOOK in the fuel tank or is it baffled.?? Does the fuel get sucked out of the tank thru the top or does it have a line coming from the bottom.??
 

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Next time this happens & shuts off, turn the key off immediately ..
Then jump off and yank the filter off.. SEE if it full or empty..
If it’s empty, u can probably blame something in the tank or the supply pump.. I’m assuming it’s electric.?
Can u LOOK in the fuel tank or is it baffled.?? Does the fuel get sucked out of the tank thru the top or does it have a line coming from the bottom.??

The fuel gets sucked out from the base of the tank, return in the top. Tank is plastic and baffled. Today I drained the tank and it was spotless. Drain is right alongside the pickup.

When I changed the filter today, it was full and the glass bowl below was also full. When I fitted the new one, the maachine self primed and started briefly and I checked the glass bowl and it had picked up fuel immediately.

Yes, the pump is electric and sits on top of the fuel / water filter.
 

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Thank u for answering my questions.. but now I’m outta ideas.(lol) other than collapsing rubber hoses.. but that supply pump doesn’t have enough pressure/vacuum to do that, I don’t think .??
 

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Thank u for answering my questions.. but now I’m outta ideas.(lol) other than collapsing rubber hoses.. but that supply pump doesn’t have enough pressure/vacuum to do that, I don’t think .??

I was going to hook up a pressure guage to it tomorrow, any idea what sort of pressure the little CAT self prime pump will produce?
 

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Depends on the injection pump..
The pump needs 6 psi under full load..
If ur gonna hook a gauge to it, make a long enough hose to reach the operator seat.. that way u can use it/put it under a load & watch the gauge as it slows down..
Good luck..
 

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Hello guys my 262c skid steer arms wouldn't raise or low but the machine still drives and the yellow light stays on can i get some help please
 

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My best recommendation is to start a new thread, give your machine s/n and any fault codes you can see through the display (if any), how long the fault has been occurring, any service work performed recently, etc, etc.

Saves folks reading 2 pages of information then realise it's a post from 2018 ;)
 
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