Case 580c

[Bryan5238]

Hey guys I just purchased a case 580c with a blown motor. I also have a 580b with a bad transmission but the motor runs great. I’m going to pull the motor out and install it in the c but was wondering what your guys thoughts are on rebuilding it while it’s out of the tractor? Not sure on the oil pressure. I was thinking I might go ahead and do it.

 

[Tinkerer]

Welcome to HEF, Bryan !
Why not start it up and check the oil pressure while it is still in the B ?

 

[Bryan5238]

Thanks! Yeah I will go ahead and check it before I pull it. I know it doesn’t smoke. Are you thinking if it’s not broke don’t fix it? Go ahead and swap it if the pressure is good?

 

[Bryan5238]

Yeah probably a pretty dumb question. I will check the pressures on the oil and a compression test on it. See what it says before I spend the money. Is there a certain fitting I need to check the compression or will a universal diesel compression tester work? You all know what the compression should be on those motors?

 

[Tinkerer]

There are no dumb questions on HEF.
Here is a link to the 580B service manual. It has the 188 in it. All the engine info will be in it.
The 580C has a 207 in it.
Minnparr has the 580C service manual also.
I suppose it depends on the kit you buy whether or not it will have the correct adapter.
That adapter alone will $50.00 or more.

 

[Bryan5238]

Alright tinkerer need some of your Knowledge. I started checking the 188 out today. And realized that it doesn’t have an actual pressure gauge on it. Gonna have to buy a mechanical gauge for it. Do you know what size threads is in the block where the oil pressure switch goes. Also checked my compression kit I have and of course I don’t have the fitting that will fit gonna have to get the adapter I guess.

 

[thepumpguysc]

If it’s the pencil style adapter your looking for.. it’s in the harbor freight compression kit..(master)

 

[Bryan5238]

Thanks Mine is a harbor freight kit. Not the master kit though.

 

[Bryan5238]

That’s good to know. The one I got doesn’t seem to be of use for a whole lot of engines

 

[thepumpguysc]

U got the “glow plug” one.??

 

[Bryan5238]

I will snap a picture of it I’ve only been able to use it on one motor so far.

 

[Bryan5238]

 

[Bryan5238]

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[thepumpguysc]

Yes , that’s the glow plug kit..no gp’s on the 580c..
The other one has the pencil inj. adapter..

 

[Bryan5238]

Aww gotcha okay. I will get that then. Got the loader off the 580B today. Never realized how tiny those motors are for what they are moving. It’s about ready to split apart. Going to pick up the 580c tomorrow

 

[Bryan5238]

Hey guys is there anything I need to be aware moving this 580c that’s not running?

 

[Tinkerer]

Make sure the differential lock is off. If it works.

 

[Bryan5238]

It moved pretty well I didn’t have any hassle loading it surprisingly finally got it home. It’s in great shape like it hasn’t been used much at all. Besides the rod threw the block. All the pins and bushings are tight. No oil spots on it.

 

[Tinkerer]

How severe is the hole in the block ?

 

[Bryan5238]

It’s missing about a 2” piece on the side where the humps are on the block. It looks like a connecting rod cap came loose.