Can I haul my excavator with my f700?

[Maxcavator]

Hi I have a 86 f700 dump truck with a net weight of 6700 kgs and a GVW of 13600 kgs. The excavator I want to haul is a hitachi 70 weighing about 7000 kgs. The trailer is a tri-axle U-build weight unknown. really heavy duty I beams. maybe 2000 kgs. Does anyone know the maximum GCVW of that truck? Thanks,

 

[Welder Dave]

What axles are on the trailer? I think you'd be OK as long as the trailer isn't overloaded. Sometimes building a trailer heavier is a disadvantage because you lose load capacity. GVW includes truck and trailer so roughly 15,000lbs. shouldn't be a problem for an F700.

 

[Tugger2]

http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/30_78#division_d2e1638

Try this if i have the link posted right. I hate to deal with these guys, but it is all posted in good detail what you can do.

 

[Maxcavator]

The trailer will have the excavator on it. so the total gvw will be about 16000 kgs 35000 lbs

 

[DMiller]

Have to ask, Hydraulic truck brakes? Electric Trailer brakes Surge Brake or NO trailer brakes? Will make a MAJOR point of view to inspectors and IF have an accident shown out as overloaded for the brake system.

 

[Canadian_digger]

Are the trailer axles single wheel or dual? What are the tire ratings?

 

[Maxcavator]

Yes hydraulic brakes. electric trailer brakes. The trailer is rated for about 20000 lbs so Im not worried wether the trailer can handle it just if the GVW on my insurance papers is the maximum combined vehicle weight I can operate with. The trailer has 3 single wheel axles.
Thanks,

 

[DMiller]

Tires as noted will be the Next question, MOST singles you cannot get better than a 6000# rated tire that for Duals that translates to a 12K axle as Opposed to Singles a 7K (Rated) 6K axle. That drops the trailer to18,000 LESS the trailer weight for the Load.

 

[Maxcavator]

Oh truck tires? They are duallys. not sure the rating. if we are still talking about the trailer even at 6 per axle thats 18000 lbs and that is plenty. Is there a rule of thumb for tongue weight compared to trailer weight?

 

[rondig]

If everything is legal and works ...no problem...as long as your registered for the total weight and no one axle is over load capacity. Tires are considered in axle capacity...so axle or tire capacity...which ever is lower...so you can not exceed truck axle or trailer axle rating.....and MUST be registered for total weight of trailer,truck, and equipment.

 

[rondig]

You usually do not want to exceed 25% of load on tongue..

 

[rondig]

Oh and in bc they will look at door sticker for rating...for truck axles and trailer sticker for trailer rating....trailer being homemade....they will look at tire ratings..there is really no gcvw on commercial trucks that scale guys look at....all about axle weights and proper registration/icbc insurance rating.

 

[Maxcavator]

Ok sounds good Ill check the axels and tire ratings. At the insurance place they said they can up the gvw as long as they don't go over the "maximum gvw" so I just need to up my gvw to about 40,000 lbs.

 

[rondig]

You got it....but stay close to what you need or you will pay more than you need too.

 

[Canadian_digger]

What size are the trailer tires.