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Another Perkins Pukes

Discussion in 'Skid Steers' started by Steve Frazier, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. motrack

    motrack Charter Member

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    Interesting reading on those China built Perkins engines.
     
  2. Steve Frazier

    Steve Frazier Founder Staff Member

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    Thanks guys, this info gives me more ammo to go at the dealer with.
     
  3. motrack

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    Steve...... just for ****s and giggles can you see the tag on you engine? I was wondering where that engine was built.
     
  4. Z'mnypit

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    Any updates on this? Im kinda in the same boat. The oil light starting flashing but no knocking noise's I cut the machine off to check the oil and it was full. Went to start it and its acting like its locked up. It ran maybe 2-3min tops and now nothing
     
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    I think once that light indicates loss of psi you a seconds to get it shut down before it becomes a boat anchor.
     
  6. pedahead

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    I just rebuilt a 3024ct in a 242b that had 6000 hrs .If you do rebuild use the updated head gasket they had problems out of the ones that came in the kit.
     
  7. John DiMartino

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    I am sorry for you Steve,and scared for myself,as I have a 246,with the same engine..Im pretty sure the 248 has a 3034T in it,around 74hp net.When researching machines to purchase,I seen several with reman or new engines,and under 2000Hrs.....
     
  8. watglen

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    Is there a particular series or model year that is problematic. The 3024 is in many machines, across many years.

    Just trying to decide if i should worry or not.
     
  9. jrtraderny

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    Steve, How ya making out with this ?
    jr
     
  10. Steve Frazier

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    I haven't been able to look at it much other than to say nothing has penetrated the block or pan. I'm having issues with my trucks which are more important and my repair time is limited. On top of that we're getting snow every few days which has to be plowed with the trucks that have the repair problems. I'm not a happy camper these days
     
  11. jrtraderny

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    Ya , I know I've got a 2010 247B2 that oil sampled @ 100 hrs. with coolant in the oil.
    Really wish Cat would dump the Perkins motors in the compact line and go to Yanmar or Kubota.
    jr
     
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    Can these skid-steers have a Mitsubishi motor as well? We have a 236B at work and while changing the oil I noticed it said Mitsubishi on a plate on the valve cover. Just wondering if there are different engine options. Ours is around 1400 hrs and nothing yet. Good Luck hopefully Cat will help you out.
     
  13. jrtraderny

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    Yeah I believe some of them have Mitsubishi in them.
    jr
     
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    I think the 3.3l 3044 motors are mitsubishis , a four cyl version of the 3046 thats in the d3,4,5 i think, and the 2.2l 3024 are the perkins ones .
    the older "A" model ones all had perkins/cat 3034 .am i right?
     
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    Almost every CAT skidsteer that we receive at our, that have the "Perkapillar" engines, need to be serviced. Lots of times, they have a hole on the side of the block. Considering the value of these skidsteers in our area, and that the engines are hard to replace with a good price. We have to find these skidsteers at a really good price.
     
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    If engine overhaul/replacement was necessary, could a Mitsubishi be swapped in?
     
  17. derekbroerse

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    With the right parts and some fab skills, you could swap in a Briggs and Stratton if you wanted. ;)

    Seriously, its basically an engine driving a pump... I don't see why you couldn't put any engine in there you want.
     
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    Yesterday the second engine failed on my 242b2. 730 hours, the first engine failed at 175 hours this one lasted a bit over 500 hours.
     
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    WTF! I feel for you buddie, I am not trying to throw any punches just would like to know if the oil had been changed more then one or twice? I have a perk in my JCB and this post is not giving me a good feeling .
     
  20. watglen

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    Me neither Steve, I think my '05 257b has the 3024. This thread is scaring the crap out of me.

    Can you tell me specifically what engine(s) you have failing.

    Then can you tell us why do you think?

    Thanks

    Ken