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621 open bowl Scraper blown engine

Discussion in 'Scrapers' started by mkosior2988, Jan 16, 2023.

  1. mkosior2988

    mkosior2988 New Member

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    Hello there,

    At the location we are at we have a 621 scraper with a suspected blown engine. It has been deemed that it’s a loss cause of a vehicle and we are just trying to move it from once location to another; however, they supposedly cannot get any power to the equipment to unlock the brakes.

    We’re trying to figure out a way to be able to unlock the brakes or are we going to have to take it apart and get a crane involved.

    Thanks in advance!
     

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  2. ahart

    ahart Senior Member

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    Sent some info, check your messages.
     
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  3. mkosior2988

    mkosior2988 New Member

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    I’ll check it out if I ever find out how to get to my messages haha
     
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  4. Delmer

    Delmer Senior Member

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    top right, next to "mkosior2988" click the envelope.
     
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  5. mkosior2988

    mkosior2988 New Member

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    I don’t see any messages in there from you.
     
  6. d9gdon

    d9gdon Senior Member

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    Put a quick connect adapter on the air tanks of the scraper and use a portable air compressor to air up the system.
     
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  7. ahart

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    I don’t believe a 621K has air brakes.
     
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  8. kshansen

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    Just an idea, have you checked to see if the operators manual is in a pouch behind the operators seal or under it? I know every Cat machine I worked on from back in the 1970's had them from the factory. If we were caught running a machine without the operators manual in it we would be in big trouble from management and MSHA!

    I only have access to parts information on SIS but can see that the 621K has the multi-disk wet brakes like other Cat equipment, and they are used as service and parking brakes. Parking would be spring applied and service would be most likely applied by oil pressure from and accumulator.

    I'm only guessing that there may be a tool of some kind that would be used to manually release the brakes by compressing the springs. Just a word of caution if you find out how to release the brakes you will have no way to stop the machine.

    If you don't know how to move this machine you should leave it to someone who does!

    Also if the bowel is down moving it might also be a problem.
     
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  9. ahart

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    I sent the OP information from SIS web on how to release the brakes in post #2.
     
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    To the OP. Look in the top RH corner of your screen and click on the red envelope icon. That will bring up the message and information that @ahart sent to you

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  11. d9gdon

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    I'm still in the '80s.
     
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    I understand, we’ve got a fleet of B models, F models, a couple Gs and 4 Ks, At least with the hydraulic brakes on the 627K scrapers, you can actually use the brakes. Most of the air brakes are semi functional at best.
     
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    That pales into insignificance on the older models if you lost a steering pump when that quill drive broke....
    Under those circumstances dropping the Big Yellow Brake was pretty much all the operator had left.
     
  14. ahart

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    Yep, the new operators always ask “but if it has no brakes then how do I stop??” See that big yellow thing behind you? Drop it.
     
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