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6 wheel John Deere skidder

Discussion in 'Forestry Equipment' started by team 527, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. team 527

    team 527 New Member

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    Hey has any one herd of John Deere testing a six wheel skidder?
    I heard they were but would like to know if anyone else had any knowledge about it,
    I wanna get a six wheeled next year but not fussed on tiger cats.
     
  2. Birken Vogt

    Birken Vogt Charter Member

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    I don't know, but my rule is not to be the extended field testing arm of any company.
     
  3. Skeans1

    Skeans1 Active Member

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    Why not just find a forwarder/clambunk?
     
  4. Hallback

    Hallback Senior Member

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    You cannot beat Tigercat.
    I own both.
     
  5. Plebeian

    Plebeian Well-Known Member

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    John Deere have the 748L ll (L 2 series) that has a number of changes over the first series L. Wiring routing, steering stops etc.

    https://www.woodbusiness.ca/harvest...k-at-john-deeres-new-l-ii-series-skidder-5164

    https://www.heavyequipmentguide.ca/...re-offer-simplified-design-for-reliable-power


    If you wish to have a 6 wheeler other than a Tigercat. Ask goughs to survey their forestry customers (especially the ones with fleets of cat forestry machinery) If there is enough put in a request to weilers for a 6 wheel skidder
    http://www.weilerforestry.com/
     
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  6. team 527

    team 527 New Member

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    I was hoping cat and John Deere realised how many 6 wheeled skidders tiger cat were moving.
     
  7. Mannie

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    I really don't have an idea , the video tho
     
  8. Skeans1

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    Might look into a Morgan they make a 6 wheel drive swinging grapple skidder.
     
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    Hallback Senior Member

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    You could not give me a caterpillar skidder that is newer than a 518 or 528.
     
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  10. Plebeian

    Plebeian Well-Known Member

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    Morgan appears to have stopped making new machines 12 years ago.
    The german 6 wheel clambunks with rotating cranes
    Welte W210 245hp deutz engine 6 wheels
    https://www.welte.de/en/serienmaschinen/detailansicht/?tx_serienmaschinen_pi1[serienmaschine]=7&tx_serienmaschinen_pi1[action]=show&tx_serienmaschinen_pi1[controller]=Serienmaschine&cHash=40ca3a5cda4ad5b2ff63cf7ae3171d3c

    HSM germany
    https://www.hsm-forest.net/hsm-904z-6wd_.html (Volvo 286hp) (wonder if the local volvo forestry would take on a german skidder with volvo power, probably make a tigercat look cheap)


    Camox France 275hp cummins
    CAMOX G 275 plateau de beille - sounds whiney in the transmission.
    https://www.camox.fr/camox-g275-tier5-6wd

    TimberPro TF840C Clambunk (8x8 on band tracks)- The Ultimate Skidder

    Tanguay TG88E Grapple Skidder Biofo Chile November 2013 (8x8)

    Tigercat 635D on band tracks


    John Deere 948L on rear dual tires with chains up slope haul. Using the dual arch to move loaded.
     
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  11. Skeans1

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    You can get a HSM in Canada they have a few dealers, Tanguay builds a 8 wheel drive swinging grapple skidder.

    Here’s a big question are you doing tree length or long logs?
     
  12. team 527

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    Tree length, to a processor on a skid site. Doe any one have any experience with the timberpro clam bunk? They look like the goods on YouTube but what are they like in the steeper conditions.?
     
  13. Plebeian

    Plebeian Well-Known Member

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    The Timberpro 8x8 forwarder is fairly similar to the Timberpro 8x8 clambunk.
    Up north use both the timberpro (8x8 forwarder) and the tigercat (6 wheel skidder in big wheel configuration) Cable Haulers for the steep terrain, tracked machines, then wheeled machines on less steep.
    https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/new-zealand-logger/20180326/282016147872561 (Douglas Logging Timberpro TF840C)
    https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/new-zealand-logger/20170726/281917363203178 (Douglas Logging Tigercat 635G 6 wheel skidder - big wheel) dual grapple arch to push loaded with

    They had the clambunk unit to put on the TF 840B forwarder. But probably did mostly processing at the stump and other log transfer to load out skid in forwarder mode so did not use the clambunk unit so much.
     
  14. Plebeian

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    The 8x8 forwarders with the separate crane might have a lower center of gravity than a Timberpro clambunk for the hills. Probably fairly expensive to run a timberpro with a widedual setup of 16 tires.
    Might need to put a winch on a 8x8 forwarder/ clambunk to pull wood on the hills. A fast travel speed of the multiwheel skidders is the tigercat 625E (230hp)
    There have been Komatsu 895 and John Deere 1910 forwarders down south. Possible to convert these to clambunk configuration
    https://www.komatsuforest.com/forest-machines/our-forwarders/895-2017 (no twist cab)
    Komatsu 865 8x8 Clambunk (no complexity of the twist cab on the JD)



    JD1910g 8x8 forwarder 268 hp (complexity of the twist cab)


    John Deere Forwarder/ clambunk mounting plate pictures
    https://www.utilajeforestiere.eu/produse-forwardere-forwardere-clambunk_en.html

    https://www.hsm-forest.net/hsm-208f-14-to-steep-slope.html , Looks solid in the crane, 238hp
    HSM 208FC20 steep slope clambunk forwarder - trees a bit match sticky. - BC, Canada


    Also the tigercat 8x8 1075C (308hp) forwarder could convert to clambunk, 1075C faster travel speed transmission than a 1085C (308hp) (used in the steep southland gum blocks) . 1075C low 0-3.5 mph and high 0-11mph
     
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    petepilot Well-Known Member

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    well now i know what a clambunk is
     
  16. Skeans1

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    D5B98DAD-D9EF-48B1-95BD-DD8583D6A0A0.jpeg Who needs a clambunk, we’re running 33’s on a 1210 forwarder in Douglas fir thinning, there’s guys running extensions doing 40’s out here. F3734671-766D-4BA6-96CB-4388D7B3E9F1.jpeg