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580M transmission

GRADYK

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i have a 2004 580m case backhoe. having problems with the transmission . thats what i figure. i can warm it up for 20 min then start moving around and it seems the transmission is slipping or hardly ant movement when backing up. if i drive it for 2 to 3 miles it seems to be okay in all gears. when it cools down for an hour it goes back to hardley any movement. any ideas. i am going to start with filter, oil ,and cleaning the screen,
 

alrman

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Welcome to HEF GRADYK!
Love to help, But we need to know if it is powershift or shuttleshift + how many hours are showing on it?
 

GRADYK

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It is a shuttle shift not a power shift it has a carraro tlb1 transmission in it about 4525 hours on it,4 speed forward 4 speed reverse. Sorry for the delay went to a nephews hockey game. Any other info u need
 

alrman

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The Carraro shuttles are usually very reliable. It probably will be good to do the oil & filter/screen espeacially if it has not been done in a while.

The problem you have could be a control valve problem that I discuss here - https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?26125-570lxt-transmission-fluid

This problem sometimes stops the machine from driving or makes it slip a little as the modulator controls the pressure. I have seen the circlip problem affect machines both ways. I have also seen the oil go very "honey" like if not been changed for a long time, with alot of sludge like material in it that seemed to cause some drive problems. New oil & filter with a screen clean helps in this situation, but whether yours is that bad ?? :beatsme

Charge pumps can also be a problem - but they usually get worse when hot...... pressure & flow testing would confirm the problem.
Hope this helps.
 

GRADYK

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Thanks alrman I am going to drain and clean tommorow to start do u know where I could download a carraro service manual for a manual shift TLB1
 

GRADYK

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Alrman I just read that tread u had with codmech and one thing caught my ear was about the diff lock I just remembered my diff lock is not working either . He had metioned a broken wire also. Some good info in that tread. Thanks again I will drop a line tommorow when I get done thanks
 
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