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287b parking brake solenoid

rebelstout@guld

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Was reading a post from four years ago Seems like that guy had the same exact problem I have right now Problem is skid steer starts fine And runs fine But in the morning When I first started The parking brake light blinks a long with the seatbelt light Disabling any Operations of the machine So for the last couple weeks I've been letting it run for five minutes Shut it down Started back up And loader runs perfectly Cat parts dealer Mentioned the other day That it might be a parking brake Solenoid going bad That's somehow There's not enough juice in the morning Or when it sits For that solenoid To operate correctly Sounds funny to me. Either a solenoid is good or it's not in my experiences
Any response to this common problem would be Appreciated
 

Mobiltech

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Here is the troubleshooting info. Hope it helps or at least gets you started in the right direction.

Parking Brake Indicator and Armrest Indicator Are Flashing

SMCS - 7630-038-IND
Test Step 1. CHECK FOR A FLASHING PARKING BRAKE INDICATOR AND/OR A FLASHING ARMREST INDICATOR BEFORE THE SYSTEM IS ENABLED
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(1) Armrest indicator

(2) Parking brake indicator

Occupy the seat.
Place the armrest in the DOWN position.
Turn the key start switch to the ON position.
Expected Result:

The armrest indicator should be off and the parking brake indicator should be on.

Results:

OK - The armrest indicator is off and the parking brake indicator is on. Proceed to Test Step 9.
NOT OK - The armrest indicator is flashing and the parking brake indicator is flashing. Proceed to Test Step 2.
NOT OK - The parking brake indicator is flashing.
Repair: See Troubleshooting, "Parking Brake Indicator Is Flashing".

Stop.

NOT OK - The armrest indicator is flashing.
Repair: See Troubleshooting, "Armrest Indicator Is Flashing".

Stop.

Test Step 2. CHECK THE RETURN SOLENOID WIRE FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

Turn the key start switch to the OFF position.
Raise the cab. See Operation and Maintenance Manual, "Cab Tilting".
Locate the interlock ECM. The interlock ECM is located on the left side of the machine beneath the access cover on the floor of the machine.
Remove the wire harness from the ECM.
Measure the resistance from contact 3 to contact 68 (wire 201-BK and wire 975-WH) of the wire harness connector.
Expected Result:

The resistance should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistance is greater than 5000 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 6.
NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 3.
Test Step 3. CHECK THE HYDROSTATIC PILOT SOLENOID FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

Locate the hydrostatic pilot solenoid.
Disconnect the wire harness from the hydrostatic pilot solenoid.
Measure the resistance from contact 3 to contact 68 (wire 201-BK and wire 975-WH) of the wire harness for the ECM.
Expected Result:

The resistance should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistance is greater than 5000 Ohms.
Repair: The hydrostatic pilot solenoid has failed. Replace the coil for the hydrostatic pilot solenoid.

Stop.

NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 4.
Test Step 4. CHECK THE WORK TOOL PILOT SOLENOID FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

Locate the work tool pilot solenoid.
Disconnect the wire harness from the work tool pilot solenoid.
Measure the resistance from contact 3 to contact 68 (wire 201-BK and wire 975-WH) of the wire harness for the ECM.
Expected Result:

The resistance should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistance is greater than 5000 Ohms.
Repair: The work tool pilot solenoid has failed. Replace the coil for the work tool pilot solenoid.

Stop.

NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 5.
Test Step 5. CHECK THE WORK TOOL DETENT COIL FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

Locate the work tool detent coil. The detent coil is located beneath the right hand joystick. Remove the access panel in order to get to the connector.
Disconnect the wire harness from the work tool detent coil.
Measure the resistance from contact 3 to contact 68 (wire 201-BK and wire 975-WH) of the wire harness for the ECM.
Expected Result:

The resistance should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistance is greater than 5000 Ohms.
Repair: The work tool detent coil has failed. Replace the coil for the work tool detent coil.

Stop.

NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms.
Repair: The wire harness has failed. Repair the wire harness and/or the connector or replace the wire harness and/or the connector.

Stop.

Test Step 6. CHECK THE CIRCUIT FOR THE HYDROSTATIC PILOT SOLENOID FOR A SHORT TO THE + BATTERY TERMINAL

Measure the resistance at the wire harness connector from contact 29 (wire H416-GN) to the following contacts: contact 1, contact 11, contact 13, contact 24, contact 42, contact 47, contact 58, contact 60, contact 62 and contact 70.
Expected Result:

The resistances should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistances are greater than 5000 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 7.
NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms on at least one of the readings.
Repair: The wire harness has failed. Repair the wire harness and/or the connector or replace the wire harness and/or the connector.

Stop.

Test Step 7. CHECK THE CIRCUIT OF THE WORK TOOL PILOT SOLENOID FOR A SHORT TO + BATTERY

Measure the resistance at the wire harness connector from contact 24 (wire 126-PK) to the following contacts: contact 1, contact 11, contact 13, contact 42, contact 47, contact 58, contact 60, contact 62 and contact 70.
Expected Result:

The resistances should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistances are greater than 5000 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 8.
NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms on at least one of the readings.
Repair: The wire harness has failed. Repair the wire harness and/or the connector or replace the wire harness and/or the connector.

Stop.

Test Step 8. CHECK THE CIRCUIT OF THE WORK TOOL PILOT SOLENOID FOR A SHORT TO + BATTERY

Measure the resistance at the wire harness connector from contact 66 (wire 975-WH) to the following contacts: contact 1, contact 11, contact 13, contact 42, contact 47, contact 58, contact 60, contact 62 and contact 70.
Expected Result:

The resistances should be greater than 5000 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistances are greater than 5000 Ohms.
Repair: The ECM is very unlikely to have failed. Reconnect all connections and visually inspect the wire harness. Verify that the diagnostic code still exists. If the diagnostic code still exists perform the Test Steps again.Replace the ECM, if the cause of the diagnostic code was not found after the second attempt. See Testing and Adjusting, "Electronic Control Module (ECM) - Replace".

Stop.

NOT OK - The resistance is not greater than 5000 Ohms on at least one of the readings.
Repair: The wire harness has failed. Repair the wire harness and/or the connector or replace the wire harness and/or the connector.

Stop.

Test Step 9. CHECK FOR A FLASHING PARKING BRAKE INDICATOR AND/OR A FLASHING ARMREST INDICATOR AFTER THE SYSTEM IS ENABLED

Note: The seat will still need to be occupied and the armrest will need to be down. The key start switch will also need to be in the ON position.

Press and release the parking brake switch.
Expected Result:

The armrest indicator and the parking brake indicator should be off.

Results:

OK - The armrest indicator and the parking brake indicator are off.
Repair: There is no problem at this time.

Stop.

NOT OK - Both indicators are flashing. Proceed to Test Step 10.
NOT OK - The parking brake indicator is flashing.
Repair: See Troubleshooting, "Parking Brake Indicator Is Flashing".

Stop.

NOT OK - The armrest indicator is flashing.
Repair: See Troubleshooting, "Armrest Indicator Is Flashing".

Stop.

Test Step 10. CHECK THE RETURN SOLENOID WIRE FOR AN OPEN CIRCUIT

Turn the key start switch to the OFF position.
Raise the cab. See Operation and Maintenance Manual, "Cab Tilting".
Locate the interlock ECM. The interlock ECM is located on the left side of the machine beneath the access cover on the floor of the machine.
Remove the wire harness from the ECM.
Measure the resistance from contact 29 to contact 68 (wire H416-GN to wire 975-WH) of the wire harness connector.
Expected Result:

The resistance should be approximately 11 Ohms.

Results:

OK - The resistance is approximately 11 Ohms.
Repair: There is more than one problem. Start by troubleshooting one of the fault indicators. See Troubleshooting, "Parking Brake Indicator Is Flashing" or Troubleshooting, "Armrest Indicator Is Flashing".

Stop.

NOT OK - The resistance is considerably greater than 11 Ohms.
Repair: There is an open in the return solenoid wire. Check all connections. Repair the wire harness and/or the connector or replace the wire harness and/or the connector.

Stop.
 
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antpoo

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Oh dear, I went through this same problem. Could not find the fault for the life of me and neither could auto electrician. We simply by passed the whole safety mechanism by wiring the solenoids directly to the fuse box.

To this day I have still not fixed the problem but as long as you are extremely careful, bypassing the safety mechanism will get you out of trouble until you can get machine to repairers.
 
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