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2003 Cat 315C Monitor Wiring

Bubbantx

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Hello Everyone.
I inherited a 315C and the Monitor does not power up.
I am hesitant to operate the machine without Temp Gauges and such.
My brother has replaced the Monitor ($700) and still no go.
Checked the fuse, it's good. Now I need to chase the wiring.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this machine?
A road map is always a good thing to have.
 

Bubbantx

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Nige,
Thank you for the reply.
The machine is in the country, about 1.5 hrs away.
But my brother is gonna spin by there tomorrow and get the Serial Number.
I will post it asap.
Thanks again!
 

Bubbantx

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Nige,
The SN is very hard to read, but this is what we came up with.
0315CHCFT00468
Please let me know if this doesn't look right.
 

heymccall

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Not all generations of Cat excavator do this, but some disable the monitor when in backup mode. Are you sure that someone didn't toggle the "backup mode" on?
 

Bubbantx

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heymccall,
Just googled the Backup Mode.
According to the video for a 315B, this function kills the monitor and engine controls.
Then there is another toggle that increases engine rpm.
On my unit, everything works as normal, just no display.
But your input is appreciated.
I need all the help I can get until I become more familiar with the unit.
 

anuradha

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Hi,

Turn your key switch to the on position and see whether only controller's green light illuminates.

Then turn off the start key and disconnect sw as well and disconnect the connector near the monitor panel.

Now turn on both keys and check the voltage between number 5(green wire) & number 2(black wire) at the female side of the connector.(numbers should be marked inside the connector) and the reading should be 3.0v to 4.6v .(dc)

Now check the voltage between number 6(brown wire) & number 2(black wire) and the reading should be 0.1v to 1.2v .(dc)

If these voltage levels are not with in the limits either your controller or wiring is defective.

So you can check the above mentioned 3 wires by refering schematic to determine that the wiring is good or bad ( black wire is the ground wire, green wire is the cat data link + wire, brown wire is the cat data link - wire). Do a continuity test, ground short test, B+ short test on these wires.

If the wiring is ok that means your controller is defective. That means there is a communication signal error.

If that has happened, if you have an oscilloscope then you can check the wave form of the data link signal and it should be a clean pwm signal if working correctly. But if the signal is corrupted then you can see that what has happened to it. And that information is vital for a good electronic technitian who is familier with micro controller units, if you planing to repair the controller.
 

Bubbantx

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anuradha,
Thanks for the information.
I will look at these wires this weekend.
But, I don't think my Monitor is receiving power.
My brother purchased another monitor and plugged it in, but still no joy.
I do not have any lights or displays what-so-ever. (Dead!)
I am gonna start by checking power and ground across pins 1 and 2, as well as across 2 and 3.
If all looks good there I will move to the CDL wiring.
Again, thanks for the information as I learn more and more about this unit.
 

anuradha

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Hi,

Yes it is. I should mention it first to check the power and ground to the monitor panel before mentioning other things. If power and ground are available to the monitor, then my previous post will be helpful to you for further troubleshooting if needed. Good Luck.
 

anuradha

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Hi,

When you check power supply to the monitor check whether these two fuses are good.
(Dome lamp/Memory fuse
&
Backup/Monitot Cont. fuse)
 

Mark250

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check these two plugs for corrosion they are located behind the kick panel under the monitor the plug is very close to the floor and fills up with dirt and water it is a white plug from memory and is unsealed
the power wire usually ends up with green death
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Bubbantx

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Mark250,
Thank you for the added information.
I will be checking the wiring the weekend, and will post the results.
Thanks again to all.
You guys are awesome!
 

greasynails

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I will guarantee Mark250's post of the unsealed connector under the right kick panel is the correct answer. I've fixed many of those connectors for what we like to call "guacamole"
;)
 

Bubbantx

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Well...
You guys were correct.
The red wire on pin 1 was broken off at the pin from corrosion (Guacamole as Greasynails calls it).
Fixed wiring and all is well.
But here is the amusing part of the story.
My Brother found a New Monitor online for only $650.
He had already installed it just to receive the same symptoms.
After correcting the wiring issue the new monitor powered up and was gorgeous, EXCEPT.... all of the text is in Japanese!
I laughed so flippin' hard I nearly fell off the machine.
So, reinstalled old monitor and all is well in the world again.
I can't thank all of you enough.
The schematics from Nige, and the input from everyone else is priceless.

BTW, does anyone know if the New Monitor can be reprogrammed to English? (Still laughing)
 

LACHAU

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...But here is the amusing part of the story.
My Brother found a New Monitor online for only $650.
He had already installed it just to receive the same symptoms.
After correcting the wiring issue the new monitor powered up and was gorgeous, EXCEPT.... all of the text is in Japanese!
I laughed so flippin' hard I nearly fell off the machine.
So, reinstalled old monitor and all is well in the world again.
I can't thank all of you enough.
The schematics from Nige, and the input from everyone else is priceless.

BTW, does anyone know if the New Monitor can be reprogrammed to English? (Still laughing)

You don't need to reprogram, just re-setting it to English.:):)


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