12v RGN Pump

[PDG X]

Is anyone using a 12v hydraulic pump on a ground bearing / single cylinder RGN trailer ?

Want to use a trailer on an older tractor w/o wet kit. The trailer only has the front ‘kick stand’ cylinder, and don’t want to add a full gas powered pony motor pump, since it will be rarely used.

Would like to use a 12v Hydr pump if possible.

Per the trailer Mfr, the cylinder spec is 2500psi / 20gpm max.

If so, what did you use ?

Suggestions ?

 

[Truck Shop]

C.O.--he knows all about those.

 

[PDG X]

Who ?

C.O.--he knows all about thos

 

[Shimmy1]

One of my customers has a Muv-all RGN that has a electric pump system on it. It's a non-ground bearing, 2 cylinders, so it does work. I have no idea what or where to source a 12 V power pack. Good luck, let us know what you find. I'd say you're probably going to want at least 8-10 gpm or it will be stupid slow.

 

[PDG X]

Thanks.

Any chance you could reach out to him ?

It seems straight forward, but want to do it right the first time.

 

[PDG X]

Who is C. O . ?

 

[bam1968]

Crane Operator

 

[Tyler d4c]

There is a cheaper yet option

 

[crane operator]

I've got a 12v pump unit mounted on a hydraulic cylinder dump box. We just run off two deep cycle batteries.

Box has 4cylinders , but they are only 1 3/4"-2" rods, maybe a foot long. Not nearly as large of a cylinder as your trailer.

I'll try to find the specs on mine this weekend, but I think it's only 2-3 gallons a minute, and it's double action.

A lot of the "Amazon" pumps are only single action for a gravity dump trailer, you would need double action, and some of those have different relief settings for up and down.

I think I would want some batteries with some big cables,on the trailer, and then a charging line, they draw quite a few amps.

I also think it's going to be slow, but you should be able to get enough pressure out of one to lift it. I think a truck wet kit only runs 2,200psi or so, just with a lot more gpm.

Let us know how it works out, sounds like fun to put together.

 

[PDG X]

I've got a 12v pump unit mounted on a hydraulic cylinder dump box. We just run off two deep cycle batteries.

Box has 4cylinders , but they are only 1 3/4"-2" rods, maybe a foot long. Not nearly as large of a cylinder as your trailer.

I'll try to find the specs on mine this weekend, but I think it's only 2-3 gallons a minute, and it's double action.

A lot of the "Amazon" pumps are only single action for a gravity dump trailer, you would need double action, and some of those have different relief settings for up and down.

I think I would want some batteries with some big cables,on the trailer, and then a charging line, they draw quite a few amps.

I also think it's going to be slow, but you should be able to get enough pressure out of one to lift it. I think a truck wet kit only runs 2,200psi or so, just with a lot more gpm.

Let us know how it works out, sounds like fun to put together.

Were you able to look at your unit ?

Most electric units appear to be 2 gpm max.

 

[crane operator]

Mine is only 1.1 GPM @ 2500psi. Max of 2600.

 

[PDG X]

There appears to be a 2 gpm limit to electric powered pumps.

Talked to several mfrs/distributors and 2 is their max w 12v motors.

Can anyone tell what pump is being used on their gas powered pump ?

I just hate to add a gas unit that won’t use a gallon of gas in a year, and deal with carb problems.

Thx

 

[cfherrman]

How strong are 110v pumps? Those suitcase generators are very handy and might be better to have to mess with then an engine sitting.

 

[MarcusZ1967]

Northern Tool goes up to 14GPM looks like.

https://www.northerntool.com/categories/hydraulic-power-units

 

[crane operator]

I've put on 5 or 6 PTO and pumps/ wet kits. I've always just bought used ones from the junkyard. They've always got stuff from tipped over dump trucks or 2 line kits. I don't think I've ever given over $500 for a used one.

I always figured if the truck doesn't run, then you don't need hydraulics. And I'm no fan of pony motors, because I have no luck keeping small gas engines running.

I've always had good luck finding something used in a wet kit, because I've always been mounting on a eaton of some flavor.

What kind of transmission is in your truck?

 

[PDG X]

I've put on 5 or 6 PTO and pumps/ wet kits. I've always just bought used ones from the junkyard. They've always got stuff from tipped over dump trucks or 2 line kits. I don't think I've ever given over $500 for a used one.

I always figured if the truck doesn't run, then you don't need hydraulics. And I'm no fan of pony motors, because I have no luck keeping small gas engines running.

I've always had good luck finding something used in a wet kit, because I've always been mounting on a eaton of some flavor.

What kind of transmission is in your truck?

Ya, that’s my concern with a pony motor hydr unit - those little gas engines are a pita when they sit for any time.

It’s a Mack duplex trans.

 

[PDG X]

Northern Tool goes up to 14GPM looks like.

https://www.northerntool.com/categories/hydraulic-power-units

Thx. Theirs is an option, if I end up going gas engine pump.

Running out of electric options.

 

[PDG X]

How strong are 110v pumps? Those suitcase generators are very handy and might be better to have to mess with than an engine sitting.

Will have to check that as I do have a couple small Hondas.

thx

 

[PDG X]

One mfr said it takes 2 hp / gpm. So 12v unit isn’t possible.