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Cutting windmill blades
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skyking1
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That works great when you deal with the waste. We've been nuking for 80 years and still have original waste that does not have a final disposition. I grew up 60 miles from the Hanford site, and it is still a complete cluster. I'd be all about it when they clean it up properly.
Birken Vogt
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DMiller
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Definitively NOT Wind Turbines, nor Solar Arrays. Waste of time manpower and money.
DMiller
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Thirty PLUS Years of Used Fuel in this Pool, it could ALL Be reprocessed into MORE fuel assemblies and decrease the waste by 3/4 volume. But hey, that would be using good sense. The Site is now moving to Dry Cask Fuel Storage, in the site grounds and in the ground in storage cells with up to 32 assemblies per cask.
This is a Current Google Earth photo, the darker Lids in the yard to the North of the Plant buildings are the Populated Cells, as the plant achieves Retirement there will be two of these fields of storage cells and up to 32 1400# assemblies in each.
Should be just at 500 assemblies currently in Storage there now. Equates to roughly 5 refuelings changes. Just completed Refuel 25
This is a Current Google Earth photo, the darker Lids in the yard to the North of the Plant buildings are the Populated Cells, as the plant achieves Retirement there will be two of these fields of storage cells and up to 32 1400# assemblies in each.
Should be just at 500 assemblies currently in Storage there now. Equates to roughly 5 refuelings changes. Just completed Refuel 25
DMiller
Senior Member
Could tell you exactly what each building houses and routes inside, but then would have to kill you as is Double Knot Top Secret!!!
treemuncher
Senior Member
Another idea for Green Energy.... Why are there not more ideas or concepts in harnessing tidal energy? 2x per day = 730 cycles per year that could generate power through the lift and drop of a massive energy pool.
I realize it is cyclical, only in coastal areas, varies in depth at geographical locations and there would be a bunch of other problems to consider but is anything being studied on this anymore?
I realize it is cyclical, only in coastal areas, varies in depth at geographical locations and there would be a bunch of other problems to consider but is anything being studied on this anymore?
DMiller
Senior Member
The BRT(Big Round Thing) is "The Can" or Containment Building, 1" carbon steel tank shell with welded ribs on the outside, 4' thick Concrete Side walls, 8' thick base mat, 3' thick concrete dome, are Cable Tendons in grease filled tubes every 6' that wrap over and around the Can to Post Tension the Concrete structure thru the three gussets on the Can. The Reactor and four Steam Generators sit in there.
DMiller
Senior Member
Tidal had its day until the Fish kills began spooling up and the Biologic buildup required deep cleaning same rate as heavy shipping vessels(EXCESSIVE Money)
The Long Narrow Building attached to the Can is the Turbine Hall.
The Long Narrow Building attached to the Can is the Turbine Hall.
DMiller
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old-iron-habit
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I was thinking on the same lines. I'd try a water hose, a good suit with powered respirator and a chain saw to see how it acts. It was not 4" thick but I cut up an old fiberglass boat into small garbage can sized pieces in no time at all with a chainsaw. To save a hundred bucks at the dump, I disposed of it in my 90 gal garbage can, filling up the extra space each week. If one played with trying different grinding angles on the cutters, I bet you could get it to really sail thru the fiberglass. Most chainsaw tooth angles are at 65 degrees for softwood. One might try grinding them at more or less angle and see how they act on the fiberglass if they don't cut fast as is. When I cut the boat up the chainsaw was relatively clean as far as dust. It chipped and tore bigger chips that were easy to sweep up.
FarmWrench
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It's a shame the blades aren't designed for end of life. A few layers of aluminum foil to make a plasma ground?
I like the idea of culvert pipe, bridge beam reuse but even that requires cutting. Glass is hard. The combination of glass and resin is very tough. Quantity has a quality all it's own and 4" thick is QUANTITY!
My guess is it will be done slowly and expensively for a long time. Someone else is paying the bill and it's a big club you ain't in along the way. Whole blade landfilling will become the simple way. A packer to fill the hollow tubes with other stuff is likely.
If R.G. LeTourneau was present my guess is that a combination of methods would be used on a blade at once, or explosives. A press to bend the blade and stress a surface in a direction it wasn't design to be flexed in would give the tension side a vulnerability to cutting that would make cutting a different experience. Rope is hard to cut until it's stretched tight.
I like the idea of culvert pipe, bridge beam reuse but even that requires cutting. Glass is hard. The combination of glass and resin is very tough. Quantity has a quality all it's own and 4" thick is QUANTITY!
My guess is it will be done slowly and expensively for a long time. Someone else is paying the bill and it's a big club you ain't in along the way. Whole blade landfilling will become the simple way. A packer to fill the hollow tubes with other stuff is likely.
If R.G. LeTourneau was present my guess is that a combination of methods would be used on a blade at once, or explosives. A press to bend the blade and stress a surface in a direction it wasn't design to be flexed in would give the tension side a vulnerability to cutting that would make cutting a different experience. Rope is hard to cut until it's stretched tight.
Walker1
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Paint them and sell them as refurbish windmill blades, local pick up only.
DMiller
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Not much going to do with crumbled epoxy and glass fibers with interminglings of wooden support structure, metal structures get removed, the rest is actually trash just as old fiberglass boat hulls.
old-iron-habit
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I think it would be prudent to build a plasma energy plant that would accept the blades and convert the old windmill blades to synthetic gas in them. They would generate enough synthetic gas to make about 2-1/2 times the electrical energy consumption to turn them into rock. The plant could also burn garbage and anything else also. I just can't understand why the USA is so far behind the world on recycling via plasma energy. By the way, synthetic gas burns ten times cleaner than clean natural gas. The natural gas we use in our homes are about 3 times dirtier burning than clean natural gas.
JLarson
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They're trying to spin something with veolia to turn them into green freak approved cement supposedly.
aighead
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Has anyone tried breaking them from the inside? Toss a serious jack inside with an i-beam or a big chunk of hardwood with a point? I wonder if you could rip it apart that way...
hosspuller
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Along the lines of recycling blades... This out fit uses a rotary saw on an excavator. Wonder about the economics of the process. Appears to need mandates on the original producers of the blades and products to make it.
https://www.fibreglass-recycling.eu/england-1/
https://www.fibreglass-recycling.eu/england-1/