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Memories for us old truckers

crane operator

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Might have to make this my next.
Already set up with a cummins. If you're just driving around with it, that non aftercooled would be fine for a show truck.

Old trucks in my area are into the stratosphere for price. They actually have that one priced in the realm of possibility.

There's a lot of totally trashed trucks by me that are priced at $10-15,000- just because they are old. Cabovers, clapped out internationals and freightliners, you name it and people are dragging them out of the weeds and pricing them for big bucks (to me anyways).
 

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Already set up with a cummins. If you're just driving around with it, that non aftercooled would be fine for a show truck.

Old trucks in my area are into the stratosphere for price. They actually have that one priced in the realm of possibility.

There's a lot of totally trashed trucks by me that are priced at $10-15,000- just because they are old. Cabovers, clapped out internationals and freightliners, you name it and people are dragging them out of the weeds and pricing them for big bucks (to me anyways).

I agree with everything you said. The problem is these people don't have a clue what it takes to build a truck like I built-but then again it's
not anywhere close to anything attempted by 99% of interested people. I was interested in these critters years and years before the craze hit.
The Xer's went from dodge pickup diesels to antique semi's and have created a artificial market driving people like me out. The big craze at
the moment is anything with a 12V71-Sorry folks but those just weren't that much of a Hot Dog. Never came turbo'ed 440 hp was it, the real
power house at the time was the KTA 600 hp Cummins but it weighed too much, even the 3408 Cat only produced 450 in on highway version.
What I'm seeing is the same thing boomers did to muscle cars, only this fad will effect the parts market for older trucks being used every day.
And it already has.

Really- probably what I will do is start building some 475 to 500 hp 855 Cummins that will run and last. I have the Correct Cummins CPL's
and personal research to build reliable higher horse power Cummins 855 mechanical engines.
 

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The going price for older petes and kw around here is stupid. Beat to hell, cabs shot, etc,etc. Other makes are reasonably priced. Basically, guys are buying the name. I don't get it. Must be an ego thing
 

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This pete is by me for sale. 1979 359 with a 3408. Its double framed, and looks pretty straight. $80,000. And its owned by a cattle hauler right now, so you know its been loaded heavy and run hard.

I'd hate to know the costs with keeping a 3408 running. I bet the heads and such are getting kind of scarce.

1979 pete 359 3408 1.jpg 1979 pete 359 3408 2.jpg 1979 pete 359 3408 3.jpg
 

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The 3408 could be a reliable engine left in stock form-but so many were jacked which
caused a number of issues like-broken cranks. $50,000 to do a proper complete rebuild.
The engine really isn't cost effective. Mileage was never very good, Gayle my old partner
in the shop had three Pete's powered by 3408's. When the 1985 Extnd hood he had lost
the third set of heads out it came and he transplanted a 550 6TS 3406 1998 engine in it.
Gayle said {it would flat walk all over his 3408's and burn way less fuel} with way less
steer axle weight. That truck above in it's present state is a money pit.
 

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Here's another one. its a 1985 359, cat 3406 but it needs rebuilt "if you plan on running it" (because I'm buying a truck and fixing it all and don't plan on running it?:confused:) Its been stretched, looks like just at the rear between the tandems, because everyone wants that super long wheelbase. He's wanting 14,500 and I guess I just don't see how its worth that.

Its got a engine that needs rebuilt, its been poorly stretched. He "just doesn't have time" - more like he's discovered exactly how much more there is to be done- and how much expertise and $$$ that's going to require. It just seems like a expensive starting point to me.

The following is quoted from the ad :

*price drop* 1985 Peterbilt 359 ex hd project for sale. Freightliner cut off, 285” wheelbase done by me. It is double framed passed stretch-point and all unnecessary holes in frame filled and ground smooth . 36” bunk, 9 speed, running bmodel that will need overhauled if you plan on running it and double square 359 headlights. Hood is in good shape just didn’t have it on in the pictures. Don’t have time to finish it like I want. $14,500 obo or may entertain trades. Located in mineral point, mo.

1985 359 stretched 1.jpg 1985 359 stretched 2.jpg 1985 359 stretched 3.jpg
 

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The pete---why would anyone put Airliner suspension under a pete when there is pete low-air suspension laying everywhere? 36" sleeper is worthless.
It's only saving grace is I see the exhaust is run outside of frame from turbo-that means it should have a oil driven retarder. But he doesn't note that.
The Mack is total scrap-by the ton price.
 

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Now this one below is a direct example of what I said above about people getting in the business of buying a restored vehicle then flipping it
for a exorbitant amount of cash. Yes he can ask what he wants-the problem really goes into orbit when a fool {more money than brains buys it}.
Which leads the seller into trying it again-and the guy selling this is a bonified flipper-he's done this before. Another problem is it causes others
to think the same and prices start to sky rocket driving the little guy who actually was a driver, mechanic or owner operator out taking their
chance to have any fun. In the end it always boils down to money-these people fly in and screw it for the rest.

1951 LTL Mack-it originally sold for $12,000-the zero who has it is asking $160,000-----Greed.

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That's true he can ask any price--it is what it is and doesn't take away from the fact he is a inflationary greedy F@%K.
 
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