Thank you. I am doing an In frame overhaul next week on the 207D motor. Its eating itself up right now, down on power and burning oil. (this started after it shut itself down while digging ) I figure its a product of neglect and sitting for so long. Should be back to full power in no time.
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Thank you. I am doing an In frame overhaul next week on the 207D motor. Its eating itself up right now, down on power and burning oil. (this started after it shut itself down while digging ) I figure its a product of neglect and sitting for so long. Should be back to full power in no time.
Willie B
Senior Member
The Case in the background I sold this spring. I miss it, it had a sweet thumb. J D near impossible to build a functional thumb. John Deere is VERY difficult to access anything you need to work on. Still it is advanced beyond the case of close age.
Swetz
Senior Member
Willie,
I know it is quite pricy, but Amulet does make a hoeclamp for your machine.
https://equipmentland.com/product/amulet-hoeclamp/
I know it is quite pricy, but Amulet does make a hoeclamp for your machine.
https://equipmentland.com/product/amulet-hoeclamp/
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Welder Dave
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Not often wife is happy with the hoe!
JL Sargent
Senior Member
Sawed down and dug this one up next to my dad's house. I had planned on just sawing it close to grade, but went ahead and dug it. Took me 1:15 to get it done.
Willie B
Senior Member
I'm softening. I've seen an amulet. The one I saw is owned by a near town road crew. I talked to them they had nothing good to say. My sense is that Amulet is for gripping brush, not rocks.
Walker1
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Just spent the last hour going through this thread. Lots of really nice rigs in here, obviously operated by those doing it for a living. I’m glad to see there is still plenty of love for old iron like mine too.
Well I found this thread, I haven't quite made it completely through all the posts and pictures yet. But I figured I'd post my old backhoe. I believe it is a 1964(ish) Wain-Roy BR100 Bronco. It's built on a David Brown 990 Skid, 4 cylinder diesel about 50-something hp. Needs work, but I've did enough to use it on a job demolishing a house. It definitely beats demoing a house by hand.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
It's certainly not something you see every day but if it works it for sure beats doing things by hand.
Willie B
Senior Member
I just noticed the levers on your left operating the hoe, or did I. Yours looks to be a convertible to skip loader model. Curious. My son bought a 580B that is backhoe only. I dug one hole with it. The three lever control would take some getting used to.
Walker1
Well-Known Member
those are actually the levers for running the box blade. When you remove that to install the hoe the levers stay with the box blade.
If you think a 3 lever control takes some getting used to, the hoe that I have is a six lever control. One for each side stabilizers, one lever for swing, boom, crowd, bucket.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
That's considered 4 lever control and was quite popular on several brands. 2 lever controls were often an option. Stabilizers aren't moved when digging so don't count.
Willie B
Senior Member
The 580K I just sold came to me with three lever (plus two for stabilizers) and foot swing.
580 K was notorious for fast, sudden, unpredictable swing. With foot swing it became treacherous. To me, it seemed like a delayed reaction when I stopped swinging, I pretty much had to counter with the other foot to end a swing.
I converted it to extend a hoe & joystick SAE control.
580 K was notorious for fast, sudden, unpredictable swing. With foot swing it became treacherous. To me, it seemed like a delayed reaction when I stopped swinging, I pretty much had to counter with the other foot to end a swing.
I converted it to extend a hoe & joystick SAE control.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
Wonder if the foot swing in 100yd. draglines is a little better? Watched a show about the Silver Spade stripping shovel. It could swing up to 25 MPH with a 105yd. bucket!
Tinkerer
Senior Member
Did you ever try changing the adjustment of the swing sequence valve ? They are notorious for a stupid fast swing speed.
Willie B
Senior Member
Rebuilt them on both 580K machines I owned.
The joystick controls it was manageable. Foot swing, it was NOT! The plumbing gives priority to one side of the six section valve. While there are feathering grooves in the valve spools, ending a priority function suddenly supplies more volume to the down valve functions.
At one time Case offered flow restrictors to limit swing speed. They are NLA. There was a change to bigger bore swing cylinders. It takes a bit longer to fill a bigger cylinder, I'll guess it made swing less jumpy.
Willie B
Senior Member
It is my hope its swing was a bit less jumpy, I also hope it didn't dig along a building wall. Or the dreaded trusting bystander who assumes I can control within a 1/4" tolerance.
Worst ever is the antique tractor pulls. I'm moving two 800 LB blocks to the boat. I have "helpful" people swarming, feeling they NEED to "help". At beginning of a pull we have a safety speech. I explain the power of hydraulics, and the less than perfect controllability. I ask that they do not touch until I get the blocks within 6 inches of where they need to be placed. My speech ALWAYS falls on deaf ears. Three or four times a day I have to stop all motion, explain that swing from the chains is dangerous. Please stand back until the blocks are close. Unfortunately, the people who should be there guiding blocks are driving tractors. The self appointed helpers are NEVER those capable of helping.