Marine diesel

Truck Shop said:

If you have ever seen or been around a Oliver tractor you were probably standing next to or looking at a Waukesha, gas or diesel.

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Those and Minne Molines. Hercs and Waukeshas.

I didn't know there was a tractor called moline, were those any good?

don`t forget murphy diesel. some big old crane engines. northwest used them in their big stuff

petepilot said:

don`t forget murphy diesel. some big old crane engines. northwest used them in their big stuff

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Thank you thank you Pete pilot. At the Union School in White Swan back in 91 or 2, they had a little mom and pop crusher and the jaw was run direct by a Murphy I couldn't remember the name of that till just now thank you.

Been around a few Murphys.....blub, blub, blub...they have a unique sound.

Ed

Yes exactly! I remember you unloaded it to get it started and spun it up. I don't think it was a pony motor but it might have been my brain is fading.

Truck Shop said:

I didn't know there was a tractor called moline, were those any good?

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Minneapolis Moline tractors were fairly popular around the midwest. A fairly bright yellow paint color the early units were powered with their own gas and some diesel engines, the company opted to use Hercules a few years as profits waned then bought up by White they were essentially yellow reskinned Olivers with Waukesha engines. They died off in ‘74

petepilot said:

don`t forget murphy diesel. some big old crane engines. northwest used them in their big stuff

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Guy I worked with for years his dad was a retired , I believe, Northwest mechanic and in retirement he did keep working on Murphys in his garage. He actually gave me a couple old injectors, think one is actually a rebuilt one. They came in wooded boxes with wing nuts to hold then together.

At least one model had overhead cams that were run by aa shaft with worm gears at either end. I recall he told me that the worm gears came with no key ways in them. To time the cams you got things lined up and then used some special tooling he had to cut the keyways.

Often wished I had made it a point to go visit him while he was still working on them to see some of the stuff I had heard about.

if i recall correctly, the Minneapolis-Moline tractors evolved from the old Twin-City tractors 1920's ? or earlier. they were popular where i grew up and lots of farms had one back behind in the 'retired' line-up. a Minneapolis-Moline U was the first tractor i was on when i was a kid. in the late 80's i had a 2-150 WHITE which was a 1975 vintage, one of the first grey/black painted models. it had a MM engine (about 150hp) an Oliver over/under powershift, with a Cockshutt/Oliver main transmission and outboard planetary hubs and a closed centre Vickers axial-piston hyd pump. apparently that old tractor is still running. those were the last of the tractors with an MM engine as far as i know. i worked at a WFE dealership and we referred to the Waukesha-powered tractors a s Knockesha as they had some connecting rod bolt issues, especially on the 310 turbo engines. i still have a copy(maybe) of the factory service bulletin that detailed the new 12point capscrews and hardened washers, and special assembly procedures. after final torquing, the capscrew head had to be trimmed down on one edge to provide adequate clearance to the crankcase during rotation

I think the British expression "built like the proverbial brick sh1thouse" is somewhat apt here...........
Only 260 BHP @ 1300 RPM but a whopping 1100 ft lb of torque @ 800 RPM.

This is the "yacht" in which the engines are installed.
https://www.feadship.nl/fleet/monara

1 for the Cat fans

Tones said:

1 for the Cat fans

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Wish the guy with "camera" would move slower I was starting to get seasick!

It's called fire hosing and should have been edited into something more coherent.

John C. said:

It's called fire hosing and should have been edited into something more coherent.

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Good term!

Fascinating old boat!

Engine hidden in straw pile!!
That it and the boat survived WWII where the boat itself was pre WWI is amazing.

Not a marine diesel but easily could've been by the look of it.

More on the Deltic. Apparently the 22 Deltic locos replaced 55 steam locos. There were also 13 (I think) spare engines so that a power unit could be changed out for a spare instead of trying to repair in situ. I can recall on many occasions seeing a Deltic arrive at a station heading a 13-coach train but only running on just one engine. On flatter sections of the rail network they could still keep to the timetable using less than 50% of the available power.