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I've discovered the reasons behind mass shootings.

emmett518

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You all have read newspaper accounts of mass shootings, where some person kills a whole pile of people in a fit of rage and frustration. Pundits suggest that it's stress, workplace harassment, racism, and drugs that are setting people off.

It's all BS. I know the reason why people lose their minds.

They all had to grease a backhoe for the first time. I must have the patience of Job not to have borrowed my neighbor's Barrett light 50, and shot my backhoe.

Things I've figured out.

1. People hate grease guns because they are a pain to get working. What seems like it should take 10 seconds to load takes hours. When you can't get them working, you've going to end up covered in grease, using up a case of paper towels, and wasting a tube of very expensive, moly grease that you had to import from a Tibetan monastery where they make it from yak grease and rare incense. Something that seems simple - loading a tube of grease, demands a gaggle of Catholic priests to bless the event, grease physiologists to put you through 6 months of intensive training at the US Olympic center, and a Buddhist monk to teach you to meditate so you can properly focus.

2. The reason why people go looking for electric guns, or bulk greasers is that backhoe joints don't just take two shots of grease. I've been pumping 20 - 40 shots before I see grease oozing out of the joint. Maybe the chimps who used my hoe were too stoned on bananas to properly grease, but mine seem to take forever to fill. I worked on my hoe for two hours, and have only gotten half of them done. The gun is pumping grease. so I know grease is entering the joint.

3. When a ZERK won't pass grease, you'll discover that the banana-stoned chimps decided to ignore a fitting when it plugged up instead of actually fixing it. I scraped out mud and dirt from the outrigger Zerk holes, and am still soaking them in penetrating fluid to see if I can get grease in the holes. I have a feeling that I'm going to have to have those rusty pins removed by Deere service to get grease into those joints.

I know that this is a learning exercise, and eventually, it will become second nature, but I never expected it to be this much of a challenge.

I have new-found respect for the mechanics and operators who do things right, and take pride in their work.

This Bud's for you guys.
 

sled dog

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Emmett, your next to last line. Thank you. Some of us still have pride in a job well done. For me, a machine well and correctly greased is one of them. Hard to explain maybe, but it just feels good knowing things can swivel, bend and rotate freely. From the mechanics side, I have told people for years, I would rather work in grease to my armpits than swing a 12 lb to drive out rusty or frozen pins....
 

CM1995

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NOPE! I'm done with electric greasers thank yew very much! I'd rather tote a compressor or a mile of hose, I find it THAT much better!

Have you tried a Milwaukee?;)
 

lantraxco

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Have you tried a Milwaukee?;)
I admit I have not, and it may be the king of battery op guns, but it can't be that much better, that much quieter, and last that much longer than the Lincoln's I've had. How fast can you run through three tubes of grease, and will it do it on one battery?

Lincoln air gun, $74 free shipping. Yeah, I gotta have air, but mostly I have to have that anywhere I go anyway.

To each their own YMMV :cool:
 

skyking1

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Get an assortment of zerks in the little plastic box. Don't muck around trying to clean or fix one. When you get it out after much swearing, take a small drill bit, much smaller than the zerk threads, to the concrete-like grease behind it. Carve that shizzle out rather than try and push it through.
Try that with any zerk that does not want to accept grease.
The dredge had a lincoln, but it dieded. I have the milwaukee and the aforementioned lock-n-lube.
 

stinky64

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I'm gonna call it a tie, got the pneumatic when I got it $64 lincoln at home works great, especially for the hoe..At work we've got a lincoln canister on a keg that is my go to, especially when greasing under the trucks or machines, not as bulky and doesn't run out of grease mid truck, but when you get a clogged zerk or stubborn kingpin or auger bushing that milwaukee 18 volt has a lot more pressure and rarely fails to push some grease..Just my 2 cents
 

Swetz

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emmett,

Thanks for the BUD!

One thing that I am thinking is that the previous owner was not that diligent, or hadn't greased the unit in a while. I feel like the next time you grease it (after ~8 hours of use), it will prolly not take as much grease to make it happy. I ran into this when I greased my backhoe for the first time (took 2 cartridges) . Also, once you get the unit to take grease on all zirks, it shouldn't be hard to keep that going if you grease regularly. The battery powered units do have lots of pressure behind them. I have greased my backhoe with the Milwaukee 18 volt unit (with the 5.0 battery) at least 3 times, and the battery is currently still working...that includes months of sitting between greasing's, so the batteries do last in this gun.
 

Bootheal

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I’m third in line on this hoe. It started life in rental, then went to plumbing contractor (where I’m not sure they had any grease gun). So now, there are joints that can take 20 to 40 pumps of grease from a DeWalt. Have not tried a hand pump to count strokes and see if both squeeze out similar volumes.

I kinda wonder about the joints that grease only comes out one side or the other (on a center fed pin/bushing).

There are loose joints, mostly from the life it chose but keep changing bucket teeth and press on!

I never realized how close I was to committing Harry-carry! It takes a new roll of paper towels and almost three tubes of grease. Hour and a half to two hours (but I get distracted easily). Usually not in a rush and kinda enjoy doing it.

Would plug an electric gun. They are worth the cost. Need to work on adapters. Bought the lock-n-lube but have not used it. There are places I don’t think it will fit, thus the need for adapters. Then, how to store and keep them clean?

Back in the 50’s and 60’s on the farm, we used a pump I couldn’t carry. Held probably 5 gallon of grease, maybe 3’ tall. My job was to pump the handle. Dad or brother took the hose and climbed around on the implements.

Everyone have a great day and leave the BAR in the cabinet until it’s plinker time.
 

CM1995

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I admit I have not, and it may be the king of battery op guns, but it can't be that much better, that much quieter, and last that much longer than the Lincoln's I've had. How fast can you run through three tubes of grease, and will it do it on one battery?

Lincoln air gun, $74 free shipping. Yeah, I gotta have air, but mostly I have to have that anywhere I go anyway.

To each their own YMMV :cool:

Yeah we have both air and electric too. Our job boxes have air comp and grease keg for daily greasing. The electric gun is nice when you don't have air. We don't carry comp's around on our pickups.
 

skyking1

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I spent a winter in the shop of a company with 7 backhoes, fixing stuff. The bucket heel pins were the most neglected and I hammered several of them out to get grease in them. Never had to replace any, just drive them out, carve out the grease mixed with rock dust, and reinstall with new zerks. I burned a few boxes of hard facing rod and re-lined truck boxes. The money was the same but now I don't brag about being a welder OR a scraper hand. Don't need any of either of those headaches.
 

cuttin edge

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I had a hand pump grease gun, the leaver type for almost 20 years. Not sure who made it. It was marked ingersol rand, but I didn't think they made grease guns. I put a 2 foot hose on it. I used to put a new tip on it every spring, and give it a bath in the parts washer. Then some *&^% borrowed it, left it on the track of his hoe, and ran it over. Everything else has been garbage, and I only get a summer or 2 out of them before they start oozing grease and refuse to pump. Our back hoes are the worse, as they have no dedicated operator, and never get grease until they start squeaking. The plant loader and the loaders at the quarry have automatic greasers, as they are a 16 hour day gig, and most times a non stop machine. I like taking the time to grease because that's when you find things that need fixin.
 

skyking1

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When I got back to work for this outfit I took a 4 hour afternoon going over the 120, replacing zerks and pumping 4 tubes in. Now I am comfortable with giving it 10 pumps per on most fittings, using the Milwaukee's automatic pump counter. She rattles a lot but does not squeak!
 
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