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Any tips or tricks to get this rusted in pin out.

Tatersmt

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Any tips or tricks to get this rusted in pin out. Was going to apply some heat, but don’t want to mushroom the ends. Thanks
 

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Jonas302

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Of course we know you dont have an oxygen lance or you would have burned it out already next best thing is to cut the middle with a abrasive wheel or carbide reciprocating saw then pound the other 2 pieces out if they are still stuck blow though with a cutting torch they will shrink when cooled and pound out
 

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heat tends to loosen all sorts of rust. Give it a few cycles of heat and cool down, and on the second cool down let that heat wick in the penetrating oil. Set up some tooling to hold your driver on center and let you get two handed sledgehammer strokes on it.
 

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The ears want to bend and bind when you hit them with a sledge, best is to use a hydraulic jack with a frame to push it out, but lots of methods will work, just depends on what you have available, and what you feel like.
 

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Any tips or tricks to get this rusted in pin out. Was going to apply some heat, but don’t want to mushroom the ends. Thanks

whatever you do, don’t hit the ends with a sledge or you will mushroom them. If you have a slightly smaller sized piece of metal, use some heat, penetrating oil and give it a few taps. The oil might take a day or two to do anything though.
 

MarshallPowerGen

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Soak it, heat it, soak some more, beat it out however you can. Also clean out the zerk holes and see if you can pump grease in.

We aren't given time to mess around at work; So it's hit with a 10lb sledge, get out the .498 air hammer when it doesn't move, torch red hot, repeat, grind down the mushroomed end and reinstall with a fresh coat of grease.
 

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I had a frozen pin like that in one of my swing cylinders. Took it to the local machine shop and they heated it with an oxy propane torch until it was almost glowing red and smoking a whole lot. Focused the heat on just the pin as best as they could. Then they doused it with water and were able to pound it out with a piece of metal bar and a big sledge hammer.

The dude said this is nothing out of the ordinary, does it all the time. He also said it's very important to cool it down with water before pounding because otherwise it'll totally deform inside and then you gotta problem. That sounds like basic common sense but I don't always demonstrate basic common sense so I'm happy he pointed that out.
 

Tatersmt

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Thanks for all the great ideas, don't know why it doesn't have a zerk on these pins. Could I weld a big nut on one end and after a few heat and cool cycles put a braker bar on it and try and spin it?
 

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you could try it, but that's the last thing I'd try of all the options presented. Finca's guy's method was to save the pin. By the time you get this pin loose, it might seem pretty cheap to torch or cut the old one and buy a new one.
 

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Looks bent to me. I would follow Jonas302's suggestion and cut on both sides of the cylinder rod eye with a zip wheel, get the cylinder retracted out of the way, then heat the pin stubs from both ends, let cool and drive toward the center. If the ends are swelled, cut them flush, grind flat, repeat the heat, cool, hammer and drift, or air hammer application. If you can drill or blow through the center with a torch, the heating and cooling is much more effective after that. YMMV
 

Tatersmt

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If you're just trying to reseal the cylinder don't remove it. Remove the pin on other end and take the cylinder apart. I always hook the rod end back up to the machine anyways to loosen the nut.
Yep, I just want to reseal the cylinder. Thanks for the tip.
 

John C.

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Check out the cost of a new pin and then decide how you want to take that one out. Long time ago I used to do old dozer and excavator tracks with a press and all the time to set it up and pull pads. Then I check and a new master pin was about $12.00. I never pressed another old pin out again after that. It appears in the photo that the bosses are spread some. Maybe that is what is binding up that pin.
 

Tatersmt

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If a better penetrating oil is needed, try a homemade one; 1/2 ATF and 1/2 acetone. I've seen that concoction work miracles, especially when heat is also used.

I have heard that before but have never tried it.
 

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If you're just trying to reseal the cylinder don't remove it. Remove the pin on other end and take the cylinder apart. I always hook the rod end back up to the machine anyways to loosen the nut.
I have done it this way several times and you don’t have to find the pin every time a rock hits that flimsy snap ring later.
 
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joe--h

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I just did this same miserable job, heat didn't work. Finally cut it with a diamond wheel on an old skill saw. Miserable thing, zerk only greases the rod end, nothing to the ends in the pad.
Joe H
 
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