simon says
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Hi guys, just wondering what the price is nowadays for a new Madill 172 yarder
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Ball park figure, probably above NZ$2 million dry at present exchange rates.
Though when looking at new builds and used units to rebuild, a potential purchaser might consider at least a few options.
T-Mar have an LC680 with longer ropes, about to go out the shop door.
https://www.tmarequipment.com/yarders/log-champ-680-series/
Wheeler Equipment did a new tower build for a gravel extraction unit, last year.
NZ - Brightwater (BE 70) and DC Equipment (capacity for a new tower build)
https://www.brightwater.co.nz/bwproducts-item/forestry/
Though when looking at new builds and used units to rebuild, a potential purchaser might consider at least a few options.
T-Mar have an LC680 with longer ropes, about to go out the shop door.
https://www.tmarequipment.com/yarders/log-champ-680-series/
Wheeler Equipment did a new tower build for a gravel extraction unit, last year.
NZ - Brightwater (BE 70) and DC Equipment (capacity for a new tower build)
https://www.brightwater.co.nz/bwproducts-item/forestry/
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simon says
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Many thanks Plebeian, what is your definition of dry after the Ball park figure . In NZ it would mean no diesel or oil. Kind regards Simon says
Hallback
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Madill is done. Nicholson is no longer building in Madill equipment. The Tmar LC680 is a swing yarder and that one is destined for Dahlgren logging in Forks. It is 2.4 million dollars. The Falcon 70 built by DC equipment in New Zealand is an excellent choice and that is the way we are headed.
Hallback
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Used 172's are $700-1.1M USD.
TorkelH
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Falcon seem to be an ambitious hi-tech company, I remember professor Rien Visser from NZ presenting their grapple carriage on a forest engineering symposium here in Norway in 2013. Then we (or at least I) actually discussed if you could put a laser scanner into the carriage and build a 3D-model of the logs under the skyline, hence fully automatizing the yarding cycle.
While it is obviously correct that the world needs new yarders it is a step from refurbishing 171's to building complete new machines. And there will allways be prototype disadvantages encumbered with the first production models. Still it seems for me to be a pretty decent alternative.
What price do they ask for a Falcon 70, Darren?
While it is obviously correct that the world needs new yarders it is a step from refurbishing 171's to building complete new machines. And there will allways be prototype disadvantages encumbered with the first production models. Still it seems for me to be a pretty decent alternative.
What price do they ask for a Falcon 70, Darren?
Hallback
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I do not have current pricing (post scamdemic) but a 70 with two 1750 carriages was 2.2m (NZ) in 2020.
Dale & Hayden are flying over next month and we will be discussing the next generation of yarding machines.
Dale & Hayden are flying over next month and we will be discussing the next generation of yarding machines.
The Falcon 171 (rebuilt Madill 171) might have close to 4 years of data gathering and operational wear study on it now. The machine uses industrial automation equipment that is well proven for industrial settings rather than out in the forest. 3 months of programming was necessary to get the machine operational. Moutere Logging had several skyline haulers at the time that had been well studied and worked on at the time the 171 was put together.
The 171 was repowered with a JD 13.5 liter Tier 3 450hp with an Allison HD4500 6speed trans. The hauler has 3 mode settings: travel, setup, and work/haul.
Falcon 171
The 171 was repowered with a JD 13.5 liter Tier 3 450hp with an Allison HD4500 6speed trans. The hauler has 3 mode settings: travel, setup, and work/haul.
Falcon 171
John C.
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As I understand the video and your descriptions, these machines are not automated at all because they still require an operator. They are electronically controlled with a micro processor interpreting what the operator wants the machine to do and that processor doing the actual control of those functions? I would assume telematics have also been installed so the manufacturer and owner can monitor all its operations.
Hallback
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Anyone know where all the inventory of Morgan Power Apparatus ended up at?