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adding a filter to the off road fuel pump

skyking1

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This truck has had a 100 gallon off road fuel tank and pump on it for as long as they have had it, and no filter.
I had a leak the other day so I decided to replace the hose and nozzle, and put in a filter with a transparent bowl for water/sediment.
I was just going to hang it off the elbow pointing toward the door, then thought the better of it. I toss too much heavy stuff in there and would kill the filter sooner than later. I hid it behind the pump. Here it is dry fitted to figure nipple lengths.
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Note the brass pipes and fittings, one of the benefits of working for a plumbing company. I asked if they wanted me to write it down somewhere and nope :)
 
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That Golden Rod 495 is a classic. The standard for home heating oil tanks.

Interesting note about the brass pipe. It’s perfectly fine for that application , BTW.

I guess it’s verboten in the AV fuel biz. The zinc can leach out of the alloy and cause problems. Alaska Airlines did an on-site audit of my aircraft refuelers in Dillingham, Bethel & Yakutat. These were Bosserman units. AK Air pointed out a few brass/bronze pipe and tube fittings used on the instruments circuits and controls, here and there. Had to be changed out with black pipe or stainless.

But the giant copper/brass scoville fittings on the 1 1/2” single- point delivery hoses were fine. ;).
 
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I could have gone all black iron, but the brass called to me. ^I love how they overlooked the essential fitting for expediency. :) ^
 
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Back when, I used the spin on hydraulic in a 3 micron with the water absorbing media. You knew pretty quick if you had contamination or water, as the flow went from normal to basically none real quick. I suppose the ideal would be the goldenrod or a water separator and then the 3 micron spin on, one to catch the elephants, the other the viruses.

On the tugboat I worked you pulled fuel from whichever tank I think we had six through a screen, then a centrifuge, and then a filter bank into a settling tank, right or left. You switched tanks back and forth, pumping from a settling tank through another set of smaller micron filters into the day tank, then it was filtered again on the way to the engines and finally the OEM CAT fuel filters on the engine gave it a final polish. Sometimes you would get marginal or old fuel and you needed all of it and cases of filters to keep the wheels turning. Good times.
 
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I prefer the spin on Donaldson's - as lantraxco said you know when it's time to change it and they are cheap so we keep 1/2 dozen in the conex for quick change outs. IMO every fuel tank should have a filter on it.

This is one of trucks set up with slip tank and toolboxes. GPI pump with Donaldson filter. The handle has been replaced with a gas station style automatic nozzle. IMO spend the extra bucks and get the automatic type.

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Coaldust said:
That Golden Rod 495 is a classic. The standard for home heating oil tanks.

Interesting note about the brass pipe. It’s perfectly fine for that application , BTW.

I guess it’s verboten in the AV fuel biz. The zinc can leach out of the alloy and cause problems. Alaska Airlines did an on-site audit of my aircraft refuelers in Dillingham, Bethel & Yakutat. These were Bosserman units. AK Air pointed out a few brass/bronze pipe and tube fittings used on the instruments circuits and controls, here and there. Had to be changed out with black pipe or stainless.

But the giant copper/brass scoville fittings on the 1 1/2” single- point delivery hoses were fine. ;).
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goldenrod filter` may know it as another name do you have a pic ? or is that whats at top of the post ?
 
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CM1995 said:
I prefer the spin on Donaldson's - as lantraxco said you know when it's time to change it and they are cheap so we keep 1/2 dozen in the conex for quick change outs. IMO every fuel tank should have a filter on it.

This is one of trucks set up with slip tank and toolboxes. GPI pump with Donaldson filter. The handle has been replaced with a gas station style automatic nozzle. IMO spend the extra bucks and get the automatic type.

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BUT keep an eye on them, we found that when the flow was less than perfect the automatic turned into a manual and you would end up with diesel everywhere. Back then it was just a nuisance, today it's probably akin to a felony.
 
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lantraxco said:
BUT keep an eye on them, we found that when the flow was less than perfect the automatic turned into a manual and you would end up with diesel everywhere. Back then it was just a nuisance, today it's probably akin to a felony.
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Anymore, these stupid automatic nozzles that will not stay on at all without pressure will not work at all when it gets cold. Once again, thank you Federal Government for saving us from ourselves. Idiots.
 
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I run golden rod housings on all of my 500gallon tanks, with a screen instead of an element, just before the fuel passes through my petroclear filter.
I just don't have the real estate for both on my 100 gallon bed mounted tank pumps.
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For inexpensive 1” nozzles, I’ve had the best luck with the Husky 751010: High Volume Truck, Pressure Activated, Automatic Shut-Off, in the Arctic. The other brands suck. The Husky automatic sucks, too. Just not as bad.

For a bulk fuel auto nozzle, the OPW 1281 auto is pretty good, but heavy and expensive.
 
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This is my favorite nozzle for bulk fueling. Scully brand Sculflow. The funny looking thing on the end of the nozzle is a test apparatus. I leak test everything I install.

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