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Overload of the Day

Willie B

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I thought I would start a thread I bet we could keep going to showcase ridiculous loads we see out there.

Here is #1. Dually pickup towing what appears to be a full size or nearly full size school bus. It was going nearly highway speed downhill but slowed to a crawl up this small hill. Poor quality pictures grabbed by passenger, not enough road to get far enough away to get the full rig in the frame.

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I thought I would start a thread I bet we could keep going to showcase ridiculous loads we see out there.

Here is #1. Dually pickup towing what appears to be a full size or nearly full size school bus. It was going nearly highway speed downhill but slowed to a crawl up this small hill. Poor quality pictures grabbed by passenger, not enough road to get far enough away to get the full rig in the frame.

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I bet he's not far out of tow rating. I don't know what the trailer is rated for, can't even see how many tires. I'd guess the bus weighs 14,000-15000, allow 6000 for trailer, 20000-21000
 

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Both combinations above would require a CDL anywhere in the US according to the Fed Rules - unless of course it was government then they exclude themselves from their rules. :rolleyes:

Both trailers look to be min 18K GVW hooked to a 9K+ GVW single axle and 13K+ dually - no getting under 26K GCWR.
I think you are wrong. You failed to see what this is. This is a redneck camper. They are exempt from all sorts of regulations. No CDL needed.

It has always driven me crazy. Some guy drives an econobox car to his desk job his whole career, then retires & buys a monster motor home. No CDL required. A farmer; No CDL required. A volunteer fireman; No CDL required, & some fool is driving 65 on a 30 MPH road with 5000 gallons of water 8' center of gravity above the pavement.
 

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I bet he's not far out of tow rating. I don't know what the trailer is rated for, can't even see how many tires. I'd guess the bus weighs 14,000-15000, allow 6000 for trailer, 20000-21000

I don't know a lot about school buses but I think it weighs a lot more than that. The very slow speed he was dragging up that mild hill, or even on the flats with that combo, made me think otherwise as well.
 

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Jd 410 with extendahoe I have scale ticket that puts that model like that at 22 thousand plus pickup and trailer they are way over combined gvwr and a new model 710 with a cab is just shy of 29000 a friend broke his 15 ton tilt after a 710 on it every day for about a year busted frame
My 410C with Ehoe weighs 17400
 

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I was trying to figure out where this should go, this thread works as good as any.
My friend now gone bought a Ford Golden Jubilee with a shop built backhoe. A rear differential housing was broken, so he didn't put the hoe back on when he repaired it.
He had a 1950? Chevy tow truck he mounted the hoe on.
It was about the time Don Imus the radio talk show host got in big trouble referring to a women's basketball team as "a bunch of nappy ho's"
Cliff always said it was NOT his nappy hoe, it was his tow hoe.
 

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Really needs to work on his welding and operating skills.

I watched a few seconds of that guy's latest video (where he makes "stabilizer legs" for the backhoe/Daewoo) - you ARE NOT kidding about his welding ability: I am no expert welder, but CRIKEY, this guy SUCKS at welding!!! I'm surprised that backhoe even held it together for the video!!!
 

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Gooseneck will turn fine, when that van slides off sideways will be a train wreck to watch!!
 

Willie B

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Something very staggering in those figures.
I'll put myself in the position of a bus contractor, a 13000 Lb empty bus will carry as many students as a 23000 LB empty. Fuel is expensive! The lighter bus might save $10000. in its life.
I'll acknowledge a bigger bus carries more students, but I wonder if they are confusing unladen weight with GVW. Some of those buss loads of fat kids get pretty heavy.
 

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Some of those buss loads of fat kids get pretty heavy.

I knew that would come up so I went to our local school district school bus garage and looked at two 2005 GMC class C buses. Unladen weight on both buses was 23,400.
 

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I knew that would come up so I went to our local school district school bus garage and looked at two 2005 GMC class C buses. Unladen weight on both buses was 23,400.
I stand corrected. I'd have said they were similar chassis to my Top Kick. My empty truck with dump body is 13700, me in it.
Neighbor planned a cross country trip long term. He bought a 6 year old bus for $3000. Its GVWR was 28000. I figured 10000 Lbs of people in that Gross vehicle weight.
 

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And a MCI is primarily Aluminum over steel framing
School buses are steel over steel
Built like Brinks Trucks

still need armored compartment for driver
 

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I think alot of these people when they are looking at trailer GVW forget to take out the trailer weight, when I was looking at gooseneck trailers after you take out the weight of the trailer the carrying capacity really suffers.

And if you are going to do this correctly, the gross combined weight rating of the truck needs to be factored in which if I remember for a new 3500 Ram is 30,000, It was 26k in 2012. However that 30k has to have the weight of the trailer and I believe the truck removed from it.

I couldnt come up with a scenario with my 3500 and gooseneck that would haul and E70B at 17k.
 

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Not to be contrary but the new 3500 rams gcwr is 37k if I am reading the body builder guide correctly... not that I am sayings it's a good idea to have a light duty truck going down the road at nearly 20 tons...
 
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