Roll off, hook lift, tilt bed for hauling equipment?

Canadian_digger · Feb 6, 2021

Anyone use any of these trucks to haul around equipment. In Ontario it has gotten harder to get AZ/CDL license. But it’s still easy enough to get a DZ. have been thinking one of these trucks could be handy to get away from using trailers.
I would like to be able to haul backhoes small dozers and 8 ton excavator. Nothing heavier than 20,000lbs. Thinking a tandem truck would be nice. My concern are deck hight. Length. Would need 24’ long. And ease of use.

Any input or thought on this would be appreciated.

JD955SC · Feb 6, 2021

My company uses big rollbacks to carry skidsteers, CTLs, aerial lifts, mini excavators, attachments etc basically any thing that will fit on them and be within weight. Great for residential delivery too. And when not hauling equipment they can fetch oversize parts such as undercarriage and other stuff on pallets.

they are high though and you’d have to ensure what you wanted to haul could cope with that high deck height.

skyking1 · Feb 6, 2021

Those hook lift trucks with a bed always looked handy to me.

AzIron · Feb 6, 2021

Handy as a shirt pocket to have a hook lift I have looked at one for a long time

Biggest set back is the weight they are heavy to set up as opposed to a beaver tail

skyking1 · Feb 6, 2021

Yes you lose payload, but also height on any high bed. I think the tradeoff is a good one especially if you fab up some job shacks and whatnot to sling around.
Nothing is stopping you from pulling a pintle hitch trailer with it, either.

CM1995 · Feb 6, 2021

Love to have a tandem hooklift with a lift axle. Here in AL that would be legal up to 86K on state and local roads, no Interstate.

Flatbed to haul small equipment, dump bed, water tank with sprayer, 20' conex job boxes, dumpsters for demo, etc. They are pricey new though. A tri-axle with 60K lift will be north of $225K before any bodies.

mitch504 · Feb 7, 2021

I have a rollback with a 20,000lb payload capacity. It's an '86 GMC I traded for from a customer who didn't have the money to pay me anyway. I don't use it to haul equipment as much as I thought I would due to the 48" deck height, since I have two road tractors, a variety of trailers, and a class A CDL, anyway.

I do use it for everything else you can think of, and some you can't. You can do about anything with that winch and moving bed, and a pickup load of snatch blocks. I layed a 10'x10'x16' high hopper tank on it's side and loaded it out inside an abandoned warehouse with only an elevated loading dock for access, moved a bunch of loaded 40' containers around on a site, and stood a bunch of 25' tall cedar trees back up after a hurricane, on the other side of a canal!

673moto · Feb 7, 2021

I’ve been thinking of a rollback tow truck to move around my CTL and miniX since I had my truck towed a while back...seems real handy to have.
What’s a decent truck under 26k?
F650?

NepeanGC · Feb 7, 2021

I've got a roll off that we use to haul skidsteers, attachments, bins, etc. It's on a 19,500gvw truck. As a result, its only got an 8k payload with the flat deck, but it works for us.
I've looked at a tandem rolloff, but the problem I keep running in to is height. My Bobcat E85 is 13'6" on my low profile deckover float. The deck on my little Hino on 19.5" tires sits about a foot higher, and would put me over height.

AR licenses are still easy in Ontario. I've sent a couple of our guys for them. Works great for hydraulic brake truck with unlimited weight trailer. No air brake though, and even if you get an air endorsement, still no trailer air brake unless you go for the full 6 week AZ course.

CM1995 · Feb 7, 2021

673moto said:
What’s a decent truck under 26k?
F650?

I think best med duty truck on the market is Hino.

It seems every city around here has a city DOT cop for a revenue stream so 1-tons with trailers get scrutinized regularly. What some of the tree and landscape guys have started using are 450-550 and low profile med trucks to move their stump grinders, skids, minis, etc. I'm seeing rollbacks more and more.

skyking1 · Feb 7, 2021

I call them dirt cops around here. Always a pickup with canopy for hauling jump scales.
The last time the county guy pulled me over was maybe 14 years ago. I had a heaping load of concrete chunks, which I had meticulously hand groomed for the 6" freeboard. He skeptically eyeballed the load and I handed him the last two load slips. It is about impossible to overload that little 8 yard box with all the air in that load, and those tickets were 1000+ underweight. He left his scales in the truck and I never talked to him again.

mowingman · Feb 7, 2021

CM1995 said:
I think best med duty truck on the market is Hino.

It seems every city around here has a city DOT cop for a revenue stream so 1-tons with trailers get scrutinized regularly. What some of the tree and landscape guys have started using are 450-550 and low profile med trucks to move their stump grinders, skids, minis, etc. I'm seeing rollbacks more and more.

Hino announced they will not build any new trucks for the next year or so. They are shutting down their truck plant in West Virginia. The halt in production has to do with their engines not meeting EPA standards.

CM1995 · Feb 7, 2021

Damn that sucks. Nothing like the government to screw up a good product.

NepeanGC · Feb 7, 2021

mowingman said:
Hino announced they will not build any new trucks for the next year or so. They are shutting down their truck plant in West Virginia. The halt in production has to do with their engines not meeting EPA standards.

That's going to mess some things up. I'm sure the other manufacturers are going to make bank. Around here every other medium duty is a Hino.

mowingman · Feb 7, 2021

Yes, and just a year or so back, Hino announced they were going to start building larger class trucks here in the U.S. In fact, they moved into a new, larger plant facility a few miles from their former plant. I have kind of kept up with their growth since the US> plant is right by my old home town.
Jeff

CM1995 · Feb 7, 2021

I remember ready an article that Hino was going to produce tandem C&C's for vocation uses. Well now that's off the table.

CM1995 · Feb 7, 2021

NepeanGC said:
That's going to mess some things up. I'm sure the other manufacturers are going to make bank. Around here every other medium duty is a Hino.

That's a good looking rig NGC. What brand hoist do you have?

Canadian_digger · Feb 7, 2021

What about something like this. Bed height seems lower than the roll off and hook lifts. Just not sure how loading and unloading would work? Would you have to get out of the piece of equipment with the deck up to lower it down to transport position?

CM1995 · Feb 7, 2021

The 2 lowboy services we use have Landoll traveling axle trailers similar to that roll back. They have remotes to operate the trailer in addition to the controls on the trailer. I would assume roll back's have the same option.

NepeanGC · Feb 7, 2021

CM1995 said:
That's a good looking rig NGC. What brand hoist do you have?

Ontrux is who manufactured the hoist, and upfit the truck. Very well thought out system, and top quality workmanship. The hoist assembly is all galvanized which is part of what sold me on it. All of the hard lines are stainless One less thing to worry about rusting away. Its got a wireless remote, and a set full set of controls on the side of the truck.

Biggest selling point to me besides the galvanizing was how much lighter it was than a hooklift. Saved a full 1000lbs over a palfinger hook, and it's not a deadlift system like a switch-n-go.

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