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Fuel storage tanks

Holland.david

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I wasn’t exactly sure where to post this, so hopefully it’s in an okay spot:

I’m starting to research fuel storage tanks for the lot where I keep my truck. I’m looking for a 500 gallon tank. Anyone running those global fuel Cubes? I was looking at those as well as just a regular 500Gal double all tank. Need to be 12v and preferable solar powered.
What are you using to store your fuel.
 

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I had a fleet of about 20 of those Western Global fuel cubes scattered about Alaska.
250, 500 & 1000 gallon units. Most mounted on trailers.

Likes:

*double wall tanks
*Can mount the pump and nozzle inside the lid and lock it.
* easy to move
* used ones are a good value
* heavy duty construction.
* forklift pockets
* large lid on tank makes it easy to clean them

Dislikes
* The dealer located in the PNW is shady to deal with.
* not enough room under the lid to mount a pump correctly. Too cramped. Especially with filtration.

I later moved most of the pumps to a stanchion mounted on the trailer with a nice rack to store the hose and filtration on. I can probably dig up some pics.
 

Holland.david

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I had a fleet of about 20 of those Western Global fuel cubes scattered about Alaska.
250, 500 & 1000 gallon units. Most mounted on trailers.

Likes:

*double wall tanks
*Can mount the pump and nozzle inside the lid and lock it.
* easy to move
* used ones are a good value
* heavy duty construction.
* forklift pockets
* large lid on tank makes it easy to clean them

Dislikes
* The dealer located in the PNW is shady to deal with.
* not enough room under the lid to mount a pump correctly. Too cramped. Especially with filtration.

I later moved most of the pumps to a stanchion mounted on the trailer with a nice rack to store the hose and filtration on. I can probably dig up some pics.

I like the fuel cubes, like that it’s all self contained and you can lock the door and Eveything is inside. I haven’t had much luck finding used ones.
New ones they are a bit pricy but worth it.
Local fuel distributor will “lease” me one for $150 a month. I think it’ll be cheaper to just buy one on my own.
A regular 500Gal skid tank I was looking at too just not sure what route I want to go get
 

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Local fuel distributor will “lease” me one for $150 a month. I think it’ll be cheaper to just buy one on my own.

Interesting how business differs from region to region.

My fuel supplier provides tanks free of charge. Our fuel company brought out a brand new 1000 gal tank with new pump and regulatory paperwork for a large project we started last spring. Now we've probably ran 10-12K gallons through it so it was worth their while.

If we need a 500 gal tank on a job for 3 months they deliver it and fill it up.

Now I do like the looks of the fuel cubes but never used one.
 

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My previous employer supplied job site or hanger tanks with a handshake agreement that we would keep them full. The fuel market is getting very competitive, so these value-added percs are what move the gallons.

They did venture into the Av market with the Cubes and that opened up a nightmare of liability after someone actually read the various regulations.
 

Holland.david

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Interesting how business differs from region to region.

My fuel supplier provides tanks free of charge. Our fuel company brought out a brand new 1000 gal tank with new pump and regulatory paperwork for a large project we started last spring. Now we've probably ran 10-12K gallons through it so it was worth their while.

If we need a 500 gal tank on a job for 3 months they deliver it and fill it up.

Now I do like the looks of the fuel cubes but never used one.
The place I contacted will give us one for free if we do 1k gallons a month, I don’t think I will hit the threshold. And if I lease a tank after a year I can almost buy my own. Probably easier that way I can switch suppliers if I have issues.
The cubes are certainly a cool concept I have never seen one in person but they are certainly pricy brand new
 

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250-500-1000 gallon diesel tanks on the used market have been pretty cheap (at least in my area). $1 per gallon storage size plus or minus for good condition tanks, some with, some without pumps. I would shop around for a month or so and buy my own.

The only downside to getting a fuel tank from a fuel supplier is that they get sole rights to fill it, no matter if they have best price on fuel or not. When I worked on oil rigs, we had a 10,000 gallon tank and bought fuel by the semi load. We had 5 suppliers that had to be called, get a bid from each, and take the low bidder. This happened every 5-6 days and the previous supplier might not be cheaper a week later.
 
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We use the cubes on generator jobs from time to time so it's just hoses in and out, not trying to cram a pump under the lid.

Usually when we do a solar equipment fuel station we just get a plain double wall steel tank, drop a DC pump in it and then put 2 deep cycle batteries in a gang box with a charge controller and master switch. We'll pole mount the solar panel or panels on the gang box.
 

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Whatever size tank I get fro. My fuel supplier they want to be refilling it in 21 days or the charge a fee and they wont do less than 500 gallons

A friend bought 2 older tanker trailers at an auction for cheap he only bought fuel once a year after that but that's a lot of money to spend to get a deal on fuel

We had tanks at our old yard but the fire inspector saw fit to make that not worth the hassle annual permits quarterly inspections and then the neighbors built a building next to our fuel rack and we got fined for it makes perfect sense right
 

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Not sure about your area, but here before I bought or leased a tank, I'd check with whatever insurance company you use and ask them first off, what they are willing to insure, and second where it has to be put so it can be insured, too close to buildings or in an open lot not locked or fenced in, many won't insure it at all. As for a truck, why not just drive it to a local fuel station and fill it up when needed?? For equipment is one thing, for a truck unless you have to drive specifically 20-50 miles one way to get fuel, I'd just fill it when on the road myself, forget the hassle and headaches of a tank, filters, insurance, inspections, a pump that has issues the day you need it the most or someone has stolen the batteries out of or used for target practice and the list is endless and besides, from a pump at a station the fuel is fresher and also most stations don't take a chance on an inspector coming along and pulling a fuel sample and it being bad, so the fuel is also most likely higher quality. Anything most suppliers know won't pass inspection, goes to anyone that they know will never get inspected. You also have evaporation loss to keep in mind on hot summer days, along with condensation issues to deal with when you store your own fuel.

In my area 1000 gallons per tank is the limit for diesel, anything over and the insurance just kills you for costs, it then is considered commercial storage and the rates go through the roof, then after x number of 1000 gallons tanks, your again into commercial rates for insurance no matter what type, brand or style of tank you have. Unless your using a lot of fuel at odd times of the day when stations are not open and not using it to fuel up equipment, many here have gone to fuel at stations for trucks just due to the insurance issues alone. Then ask about fuel tank inspections and how often those have to be done, some area's still require a containment even for double walled tanks to be able to insure them at all no matter who owns the tanks. Buying, leasing or being loaned the tank is always the easy quick part, insurance and inspectors not so much.
 

Holland.david

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Not sure about your area, but here before I bought or leased a tank, I'd check with whatever insurance company you use and ask them first off, what they are willing to insure, and second where it has to be put so it can be insured, too close to buildings or in an open lot not locked or fenced in, many won't insure it at all. As for a truck, why not just drive it to a local fuel station and fill it up when needed?? For equipment is one thing, for a truck unless you have to drive specifically 20-50 miles one way to get fuel, I'd just fill it when on the road myself, forget the hassle and headaches of a tank, filters, insurance, inspections, a pump that has issues the day you need it the most or someone has stolen the batteries out of or used for target practice and the list is endless and besides, from a pump at a station the fuel is fresher and also most stations don't take a chance on an inspector coming along and pulling a fuel sample and it being bad, so the fuel is also most likely higher quality. Anything most suppliers know won't pass inspection, goes to anyone that they know will never get inspected. You also have evaporation loss to keep in mind on hot summer days, along with condensation issues to deal with when you store your own fuel.

In my area 1000 gallons per tank is the limit for diesel, anything over and the insurance just kills you for costs, it then is considered commercial storage and the rates go through the roof, then after x number of 1000 gallons tanks, your again into commercial rates for insurance no matter what type, brand or style of tank you have. Unless your using a lot of fuel at odd times of the day when stations are not open and not using it to fuel up equipment, many here have gone to fuel at stations for trucks just due to the insurance issues alone. Then ask about fuel tank inspections and how often those have to be done, some area's still require a containment even for double walled tanks to be able to insure them at all no matter who owns the tanks. Buying, leasing or being loaned the tank is always the easy quick part, insurance and inspectors not so much.

I will have to check with the insurance company but there is already a tank on site (another company owns) so I don’t see it being an issue.

Doesn’t look like my state requires an inspection unless it’s over a certain amount of gallons.

Sure, it would be easier to just go to a fuel station and fillup. But I believe it will be easier to have fuel onsite and cheaper as well.
 

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Sure, it would be easier to just go to a fuel station and fillup. But I believe it will be easier to have fuel onsite and cheaper as well.
You may have considered it already it if the onsite fuel tank is not kept clean and the condensation & sediment drained from it in a regular basis, it could potentially cost you far more in fuel system component issues on your machines than whatever you can potentially save by the fuel itself being cheaper. YMMV.
 

Holland.david

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You may have considered it already it if the onsite fuel tank is not kept clean and the condensation & sediment drained from it in a regular basis, it could potentially cost you far more in fuel system component issues on your machines than whatever you can potentially save by the fuel itself being cheaper. YMMV.
Something that I have thought about. Lots of companies have tanks at this shops so it must not be a huge issue
 

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I have a 660 gallon double wall fuel tank that sat in a hospital generator building for two years from new before we demoed the building and I as able to buy it from the facility. Still setting in the pole shed as I have still not put it on a trailer. Last time I checked we can move 1000 gals for our own use here in a double wall tank.
 

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Sometimes deliveredvbis more than the station unless it can come off the tanker. I would see how convenient it was to fuel at stations before I went to the trouble of a tank for road fuel. gas tank.JPG
 

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Sometimes deliveredvbis more than the station unless it can come off the tanker. I would see how convenient it was to fuel at stations before I went to the trouble of a tank for road fuel. View attachment 233256
I think there is a company pretty local that is a bit cheaper than the pump price. Either way still think it’s easier to have a tank onsite but each situation is different I suppose
 

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It’s been a popular fad in my AO for the affluent to set a keep-full service tank at their home. For nothing more than to fill their diesel pickup and maybe their Kubota BX25 that gets used 12 hours a year. Lol.

Hey’ I don’t mind filling up at the local stop N’ rob. A bag of jerky and a monster.
 

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So there’s a local oil company that says if I have a tank I’ll get a discount, but they have a tank at their office, 24 hour access with a fob/card and it’s a little cheaper than at the pump, and the offer weekly, or monthly billing. They are about 5 min down the road. Think I may try it out and see
 
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