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Old 950 engine help

MattR

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Does anybody know where I can get a used block match this number? I believe it's a D330. It needs Z Rings installed to repair top of the liner damage. Cat wants $1,300 per hole $450 to machine it flat. It's just not worth it. Or even a good running used one. Thank you
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Thanks .RC. Didn’t recognize the prefix as a 950.
If it’s just the counter bores it may be worth repairing. A used block could have the same or worse issues. Depends on the condition of the rest of the machine ultimately.
 

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You are correct it is out of a tracked loader. I found that out while ordering parts for it couple of years ago. I thought I was told a 944. But could be a 955. The rest of the machine isn't in too bad shape.Typical stuff for it's age. But still $1,300 a hole plus 450 for machining the top and some other charges, That's a lot of money For an old machine. That is just for the Counterbore work. I figured I'd see If there was a good used block somewhere
 

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That engine is out of a 955H.
Can you confirm this for me for sure? That might help me in my search Also Is the block the same configuration as a 3304? That would be easier to find. As long as it will bolt to the tranny etc. Thanks again
 

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Back in the day Caterpillar used to stamp the engines with the same serial number as the machine. so a 60A is a 955H, and it has H stamped there as well.

There were two D330 engines, a D330 and then a D330C. The D330 is 4.5 X 5.5 and the D330C is a pre 3304 4.75 X 6.
 

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Back in the day Caterpillar used to stamp the engines with the same serial number as the machine. so a 60A is a 955H, and it has H stamped there as well.

There were two D330 engines, a D330 and then a D330C. The D330 is 4.5 X 5.5 and the D330C is a pre 3304 4.75 X 6.
So which 330 is this one? And will a 3304 work?
 

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3304 block is not interchangeable with any D300-Series block.

I’ll have a dig and see what Part Numbers of block might be suitable for your 950. The Serial Number of the 950 might just help also, it may expand the list of possible options. Machinery Trader might become your new best friend.
 

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3304 block is not interchangeable with any D300-Series block.

I’ll have a dig and see what Part Numbers of block might be suitable for your 950. The Serial Number of the 950 might just help also, it may expand the list of possible options. Machinery Trader might become your new best friend.
Good morning, I was hoping you would chime in. Serial number of the machine itself is 9A872 series to Z56.

Machinery trader has nothing at the moment. Only d333s.

I don't know the Piston size just yet. I'll find that out. We're just getting things arranged to disassemble it. I'm not near the machine but I have somebody measure it. Obviously the head is off so we can do that. Thanks
 

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That motor is a D330T.
The block is not interchangable but the whole motor maybe.
You sure the 1300 isn't for all 4 holes?
Bob
Yep. I'm positive. And that's just for the Z rings. They said if there other damage to the rest of the liner (or bore) it would be $1,600 more. But in that case that was for all four holes. But the counter bore repair for the Z rings is $1,300 per hole. Then $450 for machining the top off. This is from Ziegler in Duluth. Fabco or now Fabick, is my local cat operation, but we try to do as little there as possible. They are putzs.
 

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Yep. I'm positive. And that's just for the Z rings. They said if there other damage to the rest of the liner (or bore) it would be $1,600 more. But in that case that was for all four holes. But the counter bore repair for the Z rings is $1,300 per hole. Then $450 for machining the top off. This is from Ziegler in Duluth. Fabco or now Fabick, is my local cat operation, but we try to do as little there as possible. They are putzs.
And actually, when I asked if 3304 was interchangeable, I meant the whole engine. Not just the block. Thanks
 

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that price sounds very excessive. check with an independent reputable diesel engine machine shop that specializes in engine block repair and machining
 
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that price sounds very excessive. check with an independent reputable diesel engine machine shop that specializes in engine block repair and machining
Wish I could find one. There was a good one in green bay. Found out yesterday they closed
 

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You sure the serial number isn't 90A ?
Maybe you could fill us in on the rest of the story?
Bob
 

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Yes I think I screwed up that should be 90. Also, I just found a good alternative for my machining. Another place in the green bay area named Barlin machining.They said they can do the complete project for between 12 and $1,300. And they have a truck that comes to our area every Tuesday. So they 'll even pick it up. And yes, $1,300 per hole is what cat quoted me. Thanks again for the help
 

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You sure the serial number isn't 90A ?
Maybe you could fill us in on the rest of the story?
Bob
The rest of the story is started leaking antifreeze externally. We thought we blew head gasket. Pulled the head to find out there was block damage on the top of the liner. Which is common for this model engine I understand. So the next step is counterbore and put the Z. rings in. Which we are going to do.
 

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The engine block for both the 90A or 60A engine is the same Part Number, 7M-4303.
There is a service Part Number for it which is 5S-4130.
Not much info online regarding the change This is from the era when changes were in paper or microfiche form and not much of it has been uploaded.
A quick look on Machinery Trader shows 2 of the 1st part number and 7 of the 2nd up for sale.
 

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The engine block for both the 90A or 60A engine is the same Part Number, 7M-4303.
There is a service Part Number for it which is 5S-4130.
Not much info online regarding the change This is from the era when changes were in paper or microfiche form and not much of it has been uploaded.
A quick look on Machinery Trader shows 2 of the 1st part number and 7 of the 2nd up for sale.

Thank you very much as always. Is there any way for you to post a link of those parts. I sure couldn't find them. I came up with several D333 units. But nothing else. But I'm not the best at that stuff. Even though I think I have a solution figured out, I'd like to have some backups just in case. Thank you
 
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