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Having several issues w/ a 2000 Snorkel Lift TB-50 w/ a Deutz F3L 1011F…
A) Incline Issue - The machine struggles w/ inclines, especially when attempting to load the machine onto a trailer for transport, and struggles w/ turning on inclines. An older TB-50 Snorkelift Ops Manual notes, when it comes to inclines: 1) use high rpm w/ low speed settings. 2) don’t attempt inclines > than 25 degs. (which doesn’t help when loading the machine onto a trailer for transport). In addition, our TB-50 has several quick attach ports (name?) -similar to connecting an air hose to air compressor- for reading hydraulic PSI output(s). I attached a hydraulic test gauge to the hydraulic pump port and attempted to record psi readings for as many of the machines functions / combinations of that I could think of. Another of the manuals I uncovered, for models produced 4 years post our TB-50 (2000) had 500 hour inspection hydraulic pump PSI output readings notated in it. Granted, the info may not have been the same (different pump / F4L vs F3L Deutz etc.), our machine well beyond 500 hrs (just passing 4000 hrs), etc. Nonetheless, the readings weren’t even close… our machine being far less than what the manual indicated as acceptable.
B) Start-up Issue - No matter the ambient air or engine temp... the engine starts, runs rough (like its missing) for 5-30 secs, then seems to smooth out. With no previous MX records on this machine's, I started w/ the basics… changing fluids, filters, etc. I just noticed yesterday that the inline fuel filter is dirty, will change that out. However, fuel flow (prior to fuel pump seems ok). I have consulted numerous individuals on the rough start issue (1 diesel mechanic even)… some think it’s related to: 1) low compression 2) clogged injectors 3) bad fuel pump 4) old diesel. Any suggestion on which of these potential issues, less old diesel, to start with? I can test compression, but am still looking for the appropriately sized adapter? Does anyone know the size?
Perhaps there is a correlation between the rough start and the hill climbing issue?
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. -Nick
A) Incline Issue - The machine struggles w/ inclines, especially when attempting to load the machine onto a trailer for transport, and struggles w/ turning on inclines. An older TB-50 Snorkelift Ops Manual notes, when it comes to inclines: 1) use high rpm w/ low speed settings. 2) don’t attempt inclines > than 25 degs. (which doesn’t help when loading the machine onto a trailer for transport). In addition, our TB-50 has several quick attach ports (name?) -similar to connecting an air hose to air compressor- for reading hydraulic PSI output(s). I attached a hydraulic test gauge to the hydraulic pump port and attempted to record psi readings for as many of the machines functions / combinations of that I could think of. Another of the manuals I uncovered, for models produced 4 years post our TB-50 (2000) had 500 hour inspection hydraulic pump PSI output readings notated in it. Granted, the info may not have been the same (different pump / F4L vs F3L Deutz etc.), our machine well beyond 500 hrs (just passing 4000 hrs), etc. Nonetheless, the readings weren’t even close… our machine being far less than what the manual indicated as acceptable.
B) Start-up Issue - No matter the ambient air or engine temp... the engine starts, runs rough (like its missing) for 5-30 secs, then seems to smooth out. With no previous MX records on this machine's, I started w/ the basics… changing fluids, filters, etc. I just noticed yesterday that the inline fuel filter is dirty, will change that out. However, fuel flow (prior to fuel pump seems ok). I have consulted numerous individuals on the rough start issue (1 diesel mechanic even)… some think it’s related to: 1) low compression 2) clogged injectors 3) bad fuel pump 4) old diesel. Any suggestion on which of these potential issues, less old diesel, to start with? I can test compression, but am still looking for the appropriately sized adapter? Does anyone know the size?
Perhaps there is a correlation between the rough start and the hill climbing issue?
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. -Nick