Nige
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FYI. You'll need the transmission oil drained before you can remove the strainer.
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CAT D4H WON'T MOVE
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john chamorro
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Speaking of manuals. I have a large assortment of manuals and all of them are only as good as the guy reading them and the guy that wrote them. Some of them are pretty good though others are more like comic books. The Cat manuals are good enough but not always easy to find what your looking for. I have a case 580 series PDF manual that is searchable. Very easy to find what your looking for. I have Komatsu D100-D155 manuals that would be better served in an outhouse.
john chamorro
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It's a good thing I couldn't find it,,,,,
john chamorro
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The saga continues. While I'm waiting for a book to come in, I have a couple more questions. I have a lowbed coming tomorrow so was walking the tractor out after changing the imploded filter everything worked great for about a half hour until the trans started to heat past 210. It didn't want to go into gear unless holding WOT and waiting for it to engage maybe 10 seconds later with a severe slam. I let it cool a bit and it got somewhat better, but Got hot again in about 5 minutes.
What could be causing the overheating? Plugged strainer? Funky oil? Plugged oil cooler? Bad trans pump? When I get it in here I'll drain and replace the oil and go on another search for the illusive strainer.
Last question, How much oil does it hold?
What could be causing the overheating? Plugged strainer? Funky oil? Plugged oil cooler? Bad trans pump? When I get it in here I'll drain and replace the oil and go on another search for the illusive strainer.
Last question, How much oil does it hold?
Nige
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SAE30 TO-4. Use the table below as an approximate guide. there were a number of changes in D4H during its lifetime so use the dipstick (engine @ low idle, trans in neutral, oil @ normal operating temp) to get correct oil level.
john chamorro
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Thanks. It looks like another barrel of to4 in my future. I usually run a gallon or 2 high. It seems we're always working in the steeps. I can remember running an old 46A when it lost tranny pressure. It's amazing how fast it came back down a hill backwards.
Nige
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As per usual, increase the oil volume by 10% if working on adverse slopes. Thing is that you need to know how much you've put into it on the flat to start with before you can figure out how much 10% of that is.
I think high on your list after getting hold of the barrel of oil is find that suction screen. Take photos of whatever you find in it.
I think high on your list after getting hold of the barrel of oil is find that suction screen. Take photos of whatever you find in it.
john chamorro
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My usual way of determining a high oil level has been to run the high level plus the approximate distance from the low to high marks. Not very scientific but accurate enough to work.
I'll take some pix when I actually find the strainer
I'll take some pix when I actually find the strainer
Good day, we have a cat d6h not moving forward or reverse, but the drive shaft is running. We already change the transmission pump, torque converter defective parts, filters and oils. Still the final drive is not moving. Thank you guys.
Oh come on Dave there’s just so much they can do with a cellphone in their hand and their head up their ash.lol
john chamorro
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The above comment trying to insult me is out of line and unnecessary. I guess some people just like to see their names in print.
john chamorro
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Here's a photo of the strainer. It's the nastiest strainer I've ever seen. Luckily it has no chunks in it. It all appears to be extremely fine. I'm figuring it's brake and friction material. 
mitch504
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Shopguy was referring to the parts guy Dave was fussing about, not you, John.
john chamorro
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Okay. Maybe I was a little over sensitive and didn't take it right. It was the ash part I keyed on. We're just trying to recover from one of the largest wildfires in CA. history, so ash jokes don't set well.
Nige
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I don't care much for the appearance of that black residue.
Was the oil you drained a similar colour.? If so did it smell burned.?
Was the oil you drained a similar colour.? If so did it smell burned.?
john chamorro
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The oil was blacker than black. It didn't smell particularly burnt. It hadn't been changed not the filter serviced in at least 13 years. I don't know how many hours that totaled but it was a ranch tractor that only saw use on weekends and a few days a week occasionally. It was replaced a few years ago with a 5 so has been sitting ever since.
HATCHEQUIP
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F,O,G and manuals cheapest money an owner can spend
Nige
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And I for one can never understand the philosophy of people who in some cases pay tens of thousands of $ for a machine then jib about paying $50-100 for a manual.
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Yes I agree, If having the manual for the machine saves an hour or two of down time it has paid for itself. And if it eliminates just one service call from dealer it is almost as good as winning the lottery!
john chamorro
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Nige I couldn't agree more. In this case the owner barely has control of the correct end of a crescent wrench. He leaves repair to others and doesn't feel the need for a manual. Me being the recipient of this neglected and beaten old girl ,,, well,,,I don't really want to spend $400.00 bucks for a manual for a tractor that I don't own. I'm between a rock and a dozer so to speak. I can't thank Nige and others for all the PDF's and pointers that I have gotten.
I finally got it all back together this morning. A quick munch for lunch and I'm going to take it for a test drive. I already know the brakes don't hold worth a damn. I'm hoping as the trans/brake system get nice fresh oil and the micro fine filter do their job that there may be some pedal recovery. Think happy thoughts.........
I finally got it all back together this morning. A quick munch for lunch and I'm going to take it for a test drive. I already know the brakes don't hold worth a damn. I'm hoping as the trans/brake system get nice fresh oil and the micro fine filter do their job that there may be some pedal recovery. Think happy thoughts.........