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colson04

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I'm wondering why there aren't welded lifting eyes installed on machines that are commonly craned into other levels. It is common around here.

I'd have to agree John. It is such a small cost to add fixed, welded lifting points, or steel lifting chokers/chains and proper rigging compared to the cost of the machine.

People are too afraid to say something. And to willing to take the easy way out

That idea was beaten out of my head from Day 1 when I joined the oilfield. Oilfield history is riddled with horrible accidents that were exacerbated by people too afraid to speak up. SLB taught Stop Work Authority in week one, and we regularly did training to reinforce behavior to speak up and stop a potentially hazardous situation. It wasn't just us, most of our competition and customers had some variation of "Stop Work Authority". Anyone can stop the job if they think it poses a heightened safety risk without prejudice against them. This did not stop us from accomplishing work; it kept us safe while doing work that was more thoroughly planned out and thought through. Some accidents still happened, but in general, they were caused by people that were not following the safety policies in place.
 

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G..G..G..Granville.........!! Fetch your cloth.
I'd have to agree John. It is such a small cost to add fixed, welded lifting points, or steel lifting chokers/chains and proper rigging compared to the cost of the machine.
But on the other hand it also potentially puts the onus for any failure on the equipment manufacturer. In a similar way to the installation of fire suppression systems it appears as though in general equipment manufacturers don't want to be left carrying the can in a legal sense.

EDIT: The only thing I can find listed with lifting points on them in the current product line are SSL, CTL, & MTL machines. It is an attachment and is described as a "lifting kit". Depending on model it is either four separate lifting points or a frame bolted to the machine in four places with a single lifting point in the centre.

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John C.

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Most of the skid steers already have the four lifting eyes installed on top of the ROPS structure. I've seen multiple medium to small sized excavators with lifting eyes on the track frames. All the big utility excavators that get moved around all the time and have to be broken down usually have eyes installed by the owners of he machinery. I've worked on dozers that get lowered into a ships cargo hold to clean the corners of the hold of dry material. All the military spec machinery I've seen has lifting eyes installed to allow one piece lift by dock machinery onto ships. It is so common that I can't imagine it not being done for any machine being placed in deep holes. Notice I didn't say dropped.
 

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Liability.No one wants to take responsibility for any kind of alterations ,so this stuff just keeps happening.
I bought a new Ice vibro this spring and have always thought things like a side ladder built into the body of the power unit or some tie down lugs that work with chains on the bottom edge of the power unit.I was told by the rep they dont want to change a thing in fear of liability.
If i thought that way i wouldnt leave the house every day.
 

Tugger2

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Thats my neighbor on the tagline. The crane saves both of us from hacking our fences. You should get one and join us treading water as lack of operators and regulation trys to sink us . I was thinking one day i might and go out and try working with the 303.5 and earn real cash,hahaha.Maybe enough to suport the crane habit.
 

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May want to invest in a spreader bar above the cab on the mini, saves squeezing it like a pimple as at some point will bend.
 

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Can we talk about the green shirt with the phone out and walking up to look down the hole while those chains are still whipping around? Some people don't have the sense god gave a baby duck. Even the guy in the skid loader GTFOs.
 

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The pic of my mini being picked, with the clouds as a background, always reminds me why the classic Howard Hughs flying movie Hell's Angels went so over budget. He was a stickler for the right kind of clouds for a backdrop! I keep waiting for the right phone call, where I can tell my customer I have the capability of lifting my mini on top of his 5 story house (or similar) and be able to bill for both crane AND mini time simultaneously, hasn't happened yet darn it.
 

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Dmiller has been shaming me with all his honey do projects. Of course it takes a actual break down for me to do any work around the house.

Old stove went down, and no supper with no stove, so - no choices or putting off this one.

Being the tightwad I am, I had to go to lowes to the scratch and dent/ discontinued aisle to do a little discount shopping. Have you seen how expensive stoves are?

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Your a brave man taking on those shopping responsibilities. Ill only go as far as to haul the stuff home and drag it the house. If i sugested scratch n dent id be living in the barn cooking on a coleman.

Don't worry- I had the boss with me. But she knows my spending limitations. I can only spend a lot, if I think I'm getting a "deal". I think they just pull boxes out of the back with a random appliance- call them "damaged" and suckers like me feel I'm getting a "deal" at buying a stove for a outrageous amount of $$$ that will probably die in less than 5 years with a blown out circuit board.

More likely its "connectivity of things" bluetooth, wireless internet (why we need this on a stove is beyond me:rolleyes:) will be incompatible with my then new current cell phone.
 

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Being the tightwad I am, I had to go to lowes to the scratch and dent/ discontinued aisle to do a little discount shopping. Have you seen how expensive stoves are?

I have it on good authority that sometimes Lowes dent & scratch sales are simply units undelivered orders, floor models, or like my example... they delivered the wrong unit. delivery guys said the unit will go to the S&D sale because they unboxed it. It was perfect when it left my house.
 
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