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Tugger2

Tugger2

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My phone is always ringing for work.I get one job for a month and im out of the market. The chance of finding someone younger that has drive to work and learn seems so remote.I spent the morning moving the 75 ton to the new site ,between me ,lowbed guy and 2 pilot drivers there was a lot of grey hair. Came back to the shop finished machining some lifting rigging for the sectional barge,load tested them and then finished loading crane mats on mondays stepdeck load. Couldnt get anyone to work . Its good work and lots of it ,but how do you find guys to carry it on? Id like to step back and just make sure every thing is ready and send them to work.
 
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Welder Dave

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Sometimes the hardest part is finding what you're good at and like doing. Some people are pushed into jobs because that's what they're parents did or want them to do. Some of the time they just aren't the right fit for that job. Nothing is more frustrating than trying to do a job that doesn't fit you. Truck shop is an awesome artist. Some people have trouble drawing a stick man so put them in a job having to free hand draw they will absolutely hate it. Put that same person in a skid steer doing finish grading and they might excel at it because they have an eye for it. Other people are really good at certain things but hate doing them. For most people it's finding a balance and the real lucky ones discover their true calling early on.
 
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Don.S

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The problem is that if i work 7-5 or 7-9 that two extra hours still wont allow me to live the life my parents or grandparents lived. But going home that two hours earlier lets me see my little boy every night before he goes to bed and saying no to working weekends lets me take him four wheeling. So you can sure bet im gonna say no when the boss wants extra.
Pay peanuts expect monkeys. I am definitely not a monkey but i can sure act like one. When you make a dollar i make a dime thats why i poo on company time.
 
mitch504

mitch504

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Ok, I'm gonna get on one of my pet hobby horses, y'all can just ride along:
Some years back the educational establishment decided that one of the worst problems we had was low self-esteem. People about 30 yrs old and younger have spent their whole lives with people telling them they are absolutely fantastic. When my son was 14 (he's 30 now) he called me into the shop to show me what he had done. He had drilled some holes with the drill press. He had used an inappropriate bit, and had drilled into the table. I told him I was very glad he was showing some interest, but he needed to let me show him how before he did anything with the machine tools, and told him what he did wrong. He was absolutely horrified, and actually told me I shouldn't tell him he did it wrong, but should just congratulate him for doing anything. I said who told you that BS? He said the school did.

If you never believe you can do anything wrong you never learn.

Then, they get to work and are upset that we would think they don't already know everything.
 
John C.

John C.

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I've been giving this thread a lot of thought. Decided I have no reason to add anything. The problem isn't mine anymore. No one around me does what I do and really no one wants to do what I do. Suits me fine. The dealers can't find anyone who knows what to look for in a machine, so they call me. I wrote a book about what to look for. I gave it to a couple of dealers and said make a guy read the book and have him do the inspections on your payroll. I'll work with people to train them but it will cost what it's worth. They still use me. As far as I'm concerned, the system is working fine.

I have another book I'm working on about how to put a value to something. This one is for the boys in the office wearing fancy clothes. I'm seeing and hearing about the same problems there. Attitudes and laziness. Companies go out of business because of that.
 
Tugger2

Tugger2

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I just have to face the fact that no one wants to do what id either i guess. Then the next thing i need to learn is how to say no.Might be room to have a life then.
 
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AzIron

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Tugger2 said:
I just have to face the fact that no one wants to do what id either i guess. Then the next thing i need to learn is how to say no.Might be room to have a life then.
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This year up until the end of june me and dad worked about every saturday cause that's what was needed however July through September I worked 3 Saturdays for hire and only another 4 turning wrenches

It's been completely different saying no and most customers just say ok
 
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suladas

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mitch504 said:
Ok, I'm gonna get on one of my pet hobby horses, y'all can just ride along:
Some years back the educational establishment decided that one of the worst problems we had was low self-esteem. People about 30 yrs old and younger have spent their whole lives with people telling them they are absolutely fantastic. When my son was 14 (he's 30 now) he called me into the shop to show me what he had done. He had drilled some holes with the drill press. He had used an inappropriate bit, and had drilled into the table. I told him I was very glad he was showing some interest, but he needed to let me show him how before he did anything with the machine tools, and told him what he did wrong. He was absolutely horrified, and actually told me I shouldn't tell him he did it wrong, but should just congratulate him for doing anything. I said who told you that BS? He said the school did.

If you never believe you can do anything wrong you never learn.

Then, they get to work and are upset that we would think they don't already know everything.
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Must be why i'm safe, i'm 31!

I know I got lucky as far as starting to work for my dad at 12, evenings, weekends, summers, etc and learned that way instead of school. It was pathetic a lot of time, at 14 I had a better work ethic then many decades older then me, and by 18 as far as concrete was concerned knew more then a heck of a lot of them too. It really is sad how many have no concept of real work, I really think only a small part is age. I see just as many 40-50 year olds who are lazy and cannot do the most basic things as I do the young ones. The part that pisses me off the most is how many think just because you're doing well, it's because you got a hand out from someone, couldn't be because you worked hard for it.
 
Willie B

Willie B

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Truck Shop said:
Normally I would let that idea go-But after spending my youth growing up around a father that belittled every G@D D*mn thing I did-TALENT is everything. He ran a sign shop and I worked
in it to help him out, He couldn't stand the fact that I WAS 100 times the freehand sign painter he was or would ever be. Just one damn time he could have said {that's real nice work}.

Now for the sharp end-Below is my work and I'm real proud of my talent-------------------You Either Have it Or You Don't-simple as that.

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I stand corrected? I offer my apology, which I suppose is worth a great deal less than your talent.
 
Tugger2

Tugger2

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When your young you have enthusiasm and ability to really suck up the knowledge. At 14 i started working for the summers in a logging camp,i never wanted to come home .My high school shop teacher noticed my proficiency in welding ,gave the phone no. for the local college welding class. I paid for 2 weeks in there and challenged the DPW #3 welding ticket,passed and was ticketed before graduation. . Now they hold everyones hand thru school mostly feeding them nonsense. A young guy here cant even get a fully functioning drivers licence before hes about 20. I had friends that were driving gravel trucks soon after thier learners at 16. We were allowed to go as far as our ambitions and abilities would take us. Now theres an age limit or ticket you have to spend 6mo.s in costly school to even start. By that time your still lost at 25 .
 
Nige

Nige

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G..G..G..Granville.........!! Fetch your cloth.
Truck Shop said:
Normally I would let that idea go-But after spending my youth growing up around a father that belittled every G@D D*mn thing I did-TALENT is everything. He ran a sign shop and I worked
in it to help him out, He couldn't stand the fact that I WAS 100 times the freehand sign painter he was or would ever be. Just one damn time he could have said {that's real nice work}.
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Are you sure we didn't have the same father..? Mine was exactly the same.
The only reason I know he was proud of how I turned out is that he would tell other people and that word eventually got back to me. As for telling me himself - never happened.
 
Willie B

Willie B

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At my father's funeral I spoke. It is very rare for me to say anything in public. That day I felt I had to. My words: "My father never said he loved me. He didn't have to say it, I knew. I never said I loved him. On this occasion, I pray that he knew."

That was 20 years ago. Still not a day goes by I don't think of him in a pleasant memory. A good man, respected by all those who knew him well.
 
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dirty4fun

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I had the privilege of working with my father from age 7 till 29. I ran the tractor on the baler, it had a hand clutch that I had to use my knee to help engage it. The tractor had high fenders, because my dad knew I would fall asleep. Just about every afternoon he would have to jump off the rack wake me up and get me back on the row. After school I hurried home changed clothes and was out helping, sometime hindering. We had livestock so you worked everyday, they needed to be fed. On the coldest days you spent most of it trying to get the tractors started and working on cattle waters that were frozen. I wouldn't change a thing, you see I was blessed to be so close to my father. He taught me how to work, and work for what you got!
 
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