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Teenagers today...

Welder Dave

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A guy came out to the track with his 2 boys today. They came a couple weeks ago and really liked it. The 2018/2019 Provincial champion was at the track then and I introduced him and he gave them some posters and I gave them some stickers. Today the older kid's (15) bike wouldn't start. I discovered the fuel line was cracked but had a piece of fuel line to fix it till they could replace it later. Then the dads bike wouldn't start after kicking a hundred times. I suggested using a tie down strap to pull it from footpeg to footpeg with the other bike instead of trying to push it. Finally after getting tired of pushing they tried my suggestion and got it going.

Fast forward a couple hours and the 15 year old was out riding his dads bike and I sat in one of their chairs to rest. He comes in and doesn't really ask me politely if I can move just says with a lot of attitude, "can I sit down". Sure and I get up. Then he says "you have a trailer right?" Yeah. Then the dad told him not to act like that. I felt like saying you had a fuel line and you got the bikes going right? At the end of the day the kid hurt his ankle and couldn't put pressure on it. Don't like to see anybody get injured but I think it's karma in this case!
 

muddog1975

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A guy came out to the track with his 2 boys today. They came a couple weeks ago and really liked it. The 2018/2019 Provincial champion was at the track then and I introduced him and he gave them some posters and I gave them some stickers. Today the older kid's (15) bike wouldn't start. I discovered the fuel line was cracked but had a piece of fuel line to fix it till they could replace it later. Then the dads bike wouldn't start after kicking a hundred times. I suggested using a tie down strap to pull it from footpeg to footpeg with the other bike instead of trying to push it. Finally after getting tired of pushing they tried my suggestion and got it going.

Fast forward a couple hours and the 15 year old was out riding his dads bike and I sat in one of their chairs to rest. He comes in and doesn't really ask me politely if I can move just says with a lot of attitude, "can I sit down". Sure and I get up. Then he says "you have a trailer right?" Yeah. Then the dad told him not to act like that. I felt like saying you had a fuel line and you got the bikes going right? At the end of the day the kid hurt his ankle and couldn't put pressure on it. Don't like to see anybody get injured but I think it's karma in this case!
The Dad should have got on his sons ass!!! Little entitled Ass
 

cuttin edge

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As much as I enjoy places like this, and being able to look up things like how to repair things on my halfton, or how to cook a beef wellington. I think this world wide web is the cause for a lot of our troubles. Mom kicked me out of the house in the morning, and I had to entertain myself for the day. I played with my friends, used my imagination. I helped my neighbours split and put their wood in, mowed lawns, shoveled snow, did some haying. I was never hit by my father, but all he had to do was give me the look. Mom was quick with the switch though, I got a few swats from her. I'm not a religious person, but my brother has a daughter 18, and a son 20. They were brought up going to church, and were involved in everything in school. The son, is in his 3rd year of university. Plays basketball for the university team. He is a true gentleman. The girl is in her first year of university, and does the volley ball thing for the school. Both have high marks. My brother said there were times when he and his wife never saw each other because they were in different towns going to sporting events. One thing my brother never did is plunk one of the kids down in front of an electronic baby sitter. I see these entitled brats on the news screaming in a police officers face, and think, I wouldn't do that as an adult.. I read a thing about some little prick saying that they shouldn't teach history in school, because a lot of it is upsetting. And don't get me going on political correctness.
 

Welder Dave

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Video and phone games they can play anywhere anytime don't help either. It's not hard to see why there is a growing crisis with obesity. Some parents are terrible examples too and don't discipline their kids when they really need it. Then you add in the politically correct group that says spanking is abuse and doesn't work, etc., etc. I was watching a talk show and the host said he slapped his kids hand (not real hard) because he was reaching up and about to put it on the hot stove burner. I agree that is much more effective and needed to be in an instant. If he would have just said stop or don't do that would have been too late. It's not abuse if the kid learns from it. On the other hand you don't want your kids to be scared of you.
 

muddog1975

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Video and phone games they can play anywhere anytime don't help either. It's not hard to see why there is a growing crisis with obesity. Some parents are terrible examples too and don't discipline their kids when they really need it. Then you add in the politically correct group that says spanking is abuse and doesn't work, etc., etc. I was watching a talk show and the host said he slapped his kids hand (not real hard) because he was reaching up and about to put it on the hot stove burner. I agree that is much more effective and needed to be in an instant. If he would have just said stop or don't do that would have been too late. It's not abuse if the kid learns from it. On the other hand you don't want your kids to be scared of you.
Yes Sir, there is a difference between beating a child and discipline a child. We called it attention getters...lol...children need/ want discipline... its shows them you care and love them....and let's not talk about the PC culture....it will just make us angry.
 

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suladas

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Being 31 I still got the good childhood before computers and PC culture took over. I think with the internet in many ways things are much harder on kids now then before. Before when you left school other then MSN messenger or an actual phone call you weren't connected to other people unless it was in person. Now they are connected 24/7 with social media. So many kids are going to be in trouble when they are put out into the real world of finding a job though. Schools may have gotten softer, but the real world of jobs haven't and aren't going to change anytime soon. I am amazed seeing 18-20 year old kids who are as useless as tits on a log, and even worse have no work ethic. They can work a smartphone but that's about it.

Part of it I think is the parents though. My 10 year old niece isn't doing great in school and my sister blames the school, but if a kid is behind in reading that's on the parent not the school. You can't stick them with videogames as a babysitter and expect them to teach themselves.
 

Bls repair

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This discussion has has been going on for about as long as I can remember (50’s-60’s). Long hair and hippie music (beatles,beach boys) . I went to a military school and got a haircut every week and it was still to long.:D
Just about every parent I know bitches about their kids(clothes,music,friends,attitude,electronic games ,etc) .just part of growing up I guess.
 

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Whether people agree or not, most of our problems today started with the boomer generation. Several articles have been written on this subject. Boomers started the consumer boom,
started the PC culture, spare the rod and spoil the child, I want my kids to have better than I had idea. Problem with the last idea is {I personally have never noticed any boomer that
had it that bad} It is used as a excuse for the way they spoiled their children so they won't feel so bad about their lousy parenting. JMO.

Things weren't good under the roof at my house growing up-but I had food-I had schooling, a roof over my head, and learned early nothing is free. And yes my dad was a a$$hole
but I still have some respect for him and some of his accomplishments-he tried I guess the only way he knew how.
 

old-iron-habit

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A guy came out to the track with his 2 boys today. They came a couple weeks ago and really liked it. The 2018/2019 Provincial champion was at the track then and I introduced him and he gave them some posters and I gave them some stickers. Today the older kid's (15) bike wouldn't start. I discovered the fuel line was cracked but had a piece of fuel line to fix it till they could replace it later. Then the dads bike wouldn't start after kicking a hundred times. I suggested using a tie down strap to pull it from footpeg to footpeg with the other bike instead of trying to push it. Finally after getting tired of pushing they tried my suggestion and got it going.

Fast forward a couple hours and the 15 year old was out riding his dads bike and I sat in one of their chairs to rest. He comes in and doesn't really ask me politely if I can move just says with a lot of attitude, "can I sit down". Sure and I get up. Then he says "you have a trailer right?" Yeah. Then the dad told him not to act like that. I felt like saying you had a fuel line and you got the bikes going right? At the end of the day the kid hurt his ankle and couldn't put pressure on it. Don't like to see anybody get injured but I think it's karma in this case!

My dad would have been on my ass hard and told me to go find a chair for you and then maybe would have told me give the gas line back.
 

Bls repair

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My father spared the rod but he used the hell out of the BELT . I have two brothers ,when the BELT came out my father figured we all had something to do with it so we all got it:eek:
 

Welder Dave

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Not the worst I've seen. Sorry for the long post. Know a guy who was kind of a friend. One is his sons is legally blind and a complete-a-hole. He turns into an even bigger a-hole when he drinks. Guy figures everybody would be that way if they had vision problems. The guy let me work on my older JD loader in his shop. I did some welding for him too. I did the undercarriage and was going to take the old rollers and chains in a few days.

I had to go by there and was driving my Hino dump truck at the time. The legally blind son who worked at the golf course just down the road from their farm came home and started mouthing off to me when I was talking to his dad. He was getting pretty irate about me taking the rollers. I said I'll come back with my pick up. He wouldn't let up and in typical fashion (when trouble is brewing) the dad leaves and goes in the house! I figured the best thing to do is just leave and come back when things are calmer. I hopped up in the drivers seat and before I could close the door this kid grabs my arm and tries to pull me out. In doing so breaks my watch strap. The other son who I really like, pulls up on a quad and see's what's going on and tells his brother, "enough already". I found out from a mutual friend who's worked at the golf course since 1968 that they had a staff party and this kid had had quite a bit to drink. I still have scary thoughts from that incident. What the kid doesn't know is that I was very close to kicking him directly in the face. I probably would have broke his jaw or worse. I was sitting up in a cab over Hino so would have been in perfect position and there wasn't much else I could do if I had to defend myself. I think the other son would have came over and kicked his brothers azz if he didn't let up.

You can't blame your kids bad behavior on being legally blind and I don't care if the kid if 18, 19, 20 or 50 and if they turn into a worse idiot when the drink make them stop drinking. The dad also claimed buying the kids quads and snowmobiles (toys) keeps them out of trouble. Yeah, not so much. I lost a lot respect for him because it was the 2nd time he walked away when his kid was being an azz towards me. The other guy who worked at the golf course was there that time and he thought it was pretty pathetic too for the dad to walk away and not say anything.

The golf course superintendent isn't exactly innocent either. In a weird karma kind of way, the kid was fired from the golf course a couple years later. Dad doesn't know the whole story. The mutual friend does but won't tell him, partly because he thought it was total BS and helped get him fired. Seems they had another party after work and in the morning everybody shows up on time except this kid who lives literally a 1/4 mile from the golf course. He was supposed to come in to rake sand traps but commented he didn't want to do sand traps. The mutual friend questions why the kid isn't there. The superintendent calls him but no answer. Then the kid shows up at noon in the lunch room acting like everything is fine. Boss comes in and motions for him to come to his office. Asks why he didn't answer his phone and says everybody else made it in on time. Kid claimed he slept in. Boss told him to clean out his locker. Hard to feel sorry for him. Doesn't need money though, they sold half of their farm (80 acres) for 50 million a few years ago. Still own the other 80 acres.
 

AzIron

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I was always in trouble for running my mouth my dad would get on me quite a bit and on a few occasions in my early teens was humbled in front of entire groups of people

I also remember a time waiting for a table at a restaurant when a family walked in and the mom had a baby on each hip my older brother had one of the few waiting seats and didn't get up when dad motioned him to move dad then apologized to the lady and kicked my brother off the seat it was the last time any of the three of us forgot our manners in public
 

Flat Thunder Channel

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Kids and adults these days often whine and complain when life isn't convenient. Life isn't supposed to be convenient. Life is hard and it only gets easier with hard work.

Respect your elders be polite and try lend a helping hand to others in need. The phrase please and thank you go a long way. Such an easy concept, but people tend to go the alternative route spreading unpleasantries.

It was a nice gesture to help out the youngsters. I hope the father reamed his ass later for being ungrateful. Karma catches up with everyone eventually. I think I still catch a few karma paybacks these days from my younger wilder days. I knew everything until I turned 25 and was a butthole occasionally.
 
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