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What's your hoe doing?

edgephoto

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Aighead,

Here is a set of 60 degree offset wrenches. Not sure of your size but these are big, and only $50. Google 20% off at Harbor Freight and you can get them for a bit less.

https://www.harborfreight.com/sae-j...ent=&msclkid=d9a3535163021ae15e810c22b3c41d79

Wear good gloves when using cheap Chinese tools. When it breaks or the jaws spread while you are pulling on it you can mess up your hand.

Cheap tools usually cause you to buy the most expensive ones after you get let down by the junk. Just my 2 cents.
 

Welder Dave

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With hyd's. it's very common to have to modify tools. First figure out the size of wrench you need, then see if a little grinding will be enough to get it to work. Might even have to cut a wrench shorter and give it a sharp wrap with a hammer to loosen the fitting. Import wrenches are good for hyd's. if they have to be modified. Sometimes though you have to remove other lines to get at the fitting you need to loosen.
 

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Aighead,
I would recommend something like this to find out the size of the nut. It really isnt an investment at less than $2.00, but it is useful for non-precision measuring.

https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-utility-caliper-63664.html

edgephoto is correct, when you pay $50 for a set of wrenches that would cost at least $500 from snap-on, something had to give...that something is quality. But, for the task at hand, these should work if there is one of the correct size in the set. In my experience, hydraulic fittings are not that hard to break loose. The one you pictured seems to be wet with oil, so should be less of a chore to remove once broken loose.
 

aighead

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Thanks guys! I didn't realize that HF had giant wrenches like that, and at that price I could break them a few times (and very well may!) and still be ahead. It sounds like draining will probably be the answer and to respond to someone, unfortunately yes, I've changed it recently... I gotta do what I've gotta do.

Does a shop vac really work to hold back all that fluid @Tinkerer ? That's a good call!
 

colson04

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Thanks guys! I didn't realize that HF had giant wrenches like that, and at that price I could break them a few times (and very well may!) and still be ahead. It sounds like draining will probably be the answer and to respond to someone, unfortunately yes, I've changed it recently... I gotta do what I've gotta do.

Does a shop vac really work to hold back all that fluid @Tinkerer ? That's a good call!

@Junkyard has a video posted somewhere of using a shop vac on a tank fill spout while changing a hose on side of tank. Worked pretty darn slick from the video. Changed hose without draining the tank or making a giant mess.
 

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I've used import wrenches on hyd's. and never had any issues with bending or breaking. If you can loosen the fitting without removing the other hose is worth a try. A shop vac does work as long as there isn't a huge drain plug or something removed. In order for oil to run out, air needs to vent. Ever see how long a jerry can takes to empty if you leave the vent cap on? Oil is thicker than gas too.
 

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Thanks guys! I didn't realize that HF had giant wrenches like that, and at that price I could break them a few times (and very well may!) and still be ahead. It sounds like draining will probably be the answer and to respond to someone, unfortunately yes, I've changed it recently... I gotta do what I've gotta do.
@Tinkerer ? That's a good call!

As for the HF wrenches, I would buy that set without a second thought if I had an application for them. I have a buddy that earns a living with HF tools as a mechanic. He has mostly the Pittsburg line for wrenches, ratchets, sockets, etc. His 2 cents was that they're every bit as good as a major name brand for basic hand tools. He does own some snap on, but it's minimal.

Most recently, I've bought Sunex brand tools off Amazon for some specialty items like crows foot flare wrenches and stubby, large size wrenches, also a set of 1/2" drive, Cr-mo impact sockets. I'm only fixing my own equipment so I cant justify buying major name brand tools. So far, the Sunex tools have done everything I needed in recent repairs. I also have some cheap Taiwanese made wrenches in a roll that I use when I need to make a custom wrench, bend it, shorten it, etc. Like $25 for a 15 piece set. They've also worked well for getting at hard to reach hydraulic lines.
 

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colson04,
Sunex has been around for a while. I have a close relationship with a man that owns a tool distributor (called eppy's). He has told me multiple times over the years that Sunex is a bargain as they are inexpensive and high quality, and lifetime warranty. They are made in Taiwan, which he tells me produces higher quality tools than mainland China. I really do not like to buy foreign, but I recently purchased a set of 1" drive impacts that are sunex. They have worked great so far.

EDIT:
This is the set I bought:
https://www.tooldiscounter.com/prod...5693?msclkid=df07a8d3789410b45105f7a7d418b1d9

This is the closest Snap-on set I could find:
https://shop.snapon.com/product/Dee...-Drive-Deep-Impact-Socket-Set-(7-8-2")/519SIM

$1635.00 is a lot of beer, and that doesn't include the tax. Also, I do not make a living with my tools anymore, so it is so much harder to go the extra for the top of the line. I have a box full of Snap-on (boxes too) from when I did make a living with them...they will have to sell them when I die:D.
 
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edgephoto

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Snap-On is good stuff but way overpriced. I made my living for over 20 years as an auto tech. I have lots of Snap-On hand tools. Their air and electric tools are not very good. The attraction to Snap-On, Mac, Matco and Cornwall is they come to you regularly and let you pay over time with zero interest.

I can tell you Snap-On sockets and wrenches will not round off a nut like some of the cheaper stuff will.

For home use I have tons of Craftsman. Most of my Craftsman stuff was bought back in the '80s when it was still made here.

Now that I have a Cat backhoe I have needed to buy some bigger sockets, a 3/4 drive ratchet and big wrenches. Ebay is where I have been finding stuff. Got a bunch of Snap-On 3/4 drive sockets in the sizes I need for pretty good deals. So what if the chrome is beat or they have slight rust on them. Wrenches you can find on there too. I picked up a second set of big wrenches one at a time that are Craftsman made in USA for about what Harbor Fright charges.

I almost broke my hand once years ago when a 1/2" drive ratchet failed. Never again will I use junk tools.
 

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I'm planning on heading out to HF this evening to see if they have any in stock, as the website isn't being forthcoming about that. Thank you all for the advice on these!

edit- @Swetz, I just spit out my drink at the price of both of those! Wow!

I'm also a bit scared of bad tools, my most recent issue was a well rated adapter for a impact wrench, I think a 1/2 to 3/4 or vise versa, I don't remember, with which to remove lug nuts on the car. Upon my second wheel the adapter just blew apart... Grr. They were exceedingly cheap but others seemed to do ok with them.
 

aighead

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So we went to HF and picked up the Jumbo wrench set @Swetz posted. I had my son carry them around the store because he needs toughened up a bit. We got to the very back corner of the store when he was carrying the box vertically, so of course they all dumped out the bottom and made huge noise as they crashed to the floor! Also, jimoney, they are huge! I'll head out and try them this evening to see if I'll need to dump any fluid. I'm really hoping the offset helps.
 

aighead

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Well, it's amazing what the proper tool can do! Thanks @Swetz for the jumbo wrench suggestion! It took me longer to figure out it was inch and a half than it did for me to turn the nut! Hose removed without draining any fluid! Oh and zero threat of tool breakage, just had to get the right grip on it a d it turned no problem. I have no idea what I was grabbing that wouldn't budge with the adjustable wrench... Wahoo!
 

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@Junkyard has a video posted somewhere of using a shop vac on a tank fill spout while changing a hose on side of tank. Worked pretty darn slick from the video. Changed hose without draining the tank or making a giant mess.
I have used an A/C vacuum pump to hold the hyd fluid in the tank on a Case loader as I changed out the 2" diameter pump suction line at the BOTTOM of said tank.
I modified the tank fill cap to accept the vac pump hose fitting, and did not dally, but it worked VERY WELL.
 
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