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What's your hoe doing?

aighead

aighead

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Working at the neighbors, doing some landscaping clean-up and junk. Yesterday was puling a stump and while I was focused it seemed like smoke was coming from a spot that wasn't the exhaust... Kept on trucking for a bit, not thinking much of it, then it seemed to continue. Hopped off to see hydraulic oil pouring out of somewhere right under my seat under the cab. There is a poorly positioned hose under there that appears to have gotten rubbed open by the driveshaft. At least I'm hoping it's that or else I have may have a much bigger problem. Not sure how much fluid I lost, but got it home and parked. Hopefully I can get the hose off and check it tonight or tomorrow.

That being said, anyone have good methods for keeping any hydraulic hoses up away from moving parts? Just a big hose clamp good enough? I think in this instance it was supposed to be held up by a couple steel tabs that would just fold over each other to keep that up.
 
colson04

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I forgot the pictures, but I've got my hoe pimped out at the moment. My brother in law needed a good hoe to lay some pipe as he wasn't up for doing it manually. She even gushed once during the job.

Kidding aside, he's converting from propane to natural gas and needed to dig a couple hundred feet of trench for a water line at 4 ft down. Then backfill a couple feet with sand and leave trench open for gas line guys that are coming over today to install the nat gas line to his barn. He called me about an hour into the job and told me a hose is leaking in the boom. I ended up replacing both lines for the bucket curl.
 
aighead

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No issues with scraping hose open with the straps, @Tinkerer ? I'll have to find something to tie it down to. Boy am I hoping it's just a hose too!

I think I have some leakers somewhere along my boom as well, or need to reseal some cylinders... Sounds like it'd be good winter work, if I had a heated barn and way better tools than I have.
 
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You can always put some of the nylon hose protector sleeve on the new hose like a lot of new machines come with. Large zip ties can also be used to keep hose from rubbing. After a while the hose seems to keep the shape it's been held in. I replaced a steel case drain line on my skid steer with a rubber hose and used a zip tie to hold it up so it wouldn't rub on the belly pan. Next time I had the belly pan off the hose took the shape it was held in. Dealer wanted $187 for the 1/4" steel line with a T on it. I think the hose and a T cost me about $40.
 
Pixie

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I use 3" long chunks of pex water line ( 1.25" ID ) split lengthwise to pad whatever sort of attaching device. Guess not everyone has that hanging around but most plumbers will have piles of short lengths.
 
amunderdog

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Nige said:
Judging by the sheer number of threads in this section of HEF, most of them are broken down....!! :eek::eek:
Click to expand...

Correct you are.
Case 580K Phase 3 - She is starting to show her age.
Replaced 40' culvert at the road. Total brake failure
Got the brakes replaced. (expensive and three days labor) I got every bit of life from them. One side came out in pieces.
Finished reforming the ditches and build a catch basin using old foundation stone. Will try to get some pictures of finished product.
Ordered gravel and was doing final road prep when the shuttle failed. I started a thread on that with little response.
I guess it was another good year with this backhoe.
Need to get the shuttle malfunction rectified so i can get back to whatever needs doing around here.
 
aighead

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I don't know of a good thread to go with this one, but I know there are knowledgeable people looking here occasionally... Anyone have a good method for removing the nut circled in red on the below? The green outlined hose is the main output of the hydraulic tank, I'm trying to avoid removing that so I can also avoid siphoning all the hydraulic oil out of the tank. My guess is that's the way it'll end up going but uhg!

There is only about an inch and a half to move the handle of the wrench I have but really not even that. When I'm on the nut I can move maybe 1/2" to try to loosen it. I'm also using a dumb adjustable wrench but I wasn't sure of the right size... It's amazing how much big tools cost. Oh yeah! The nut is a big one! Well over an inch and close or over an inch and a half

So, what's my best bet? Drain the oil? (at least down to the bottom of the outlet?) Get the right sized wrench?

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Mr580backhoe!

Mr580backhoe!

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My old case has been on light duty most of the summer while i built my new to me dump truck. It finally got some exercise about a week ago when I decided to switch the power going to the house from over head to under ground. 80ft trench at 24inches deep was no problem until i came across a nice rock. Struggled a bit but i got it EC7397E6-6045-4952-8A75-2C39F9D325B7.jpegA9AFADA7-168E-4B75-9758-859440B9603F.jpeg BD09549D-DB27-4886-901D-BCED2C2D7CA5.jpeg
 
Mr580backhoe!

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Aighead i ran into a similar situation with my backhoe when changing a few lines I happen to have multiple wrenchs the same size so i took a cheep china brand wrench and cut it down to a size that would work to get the line off. I broke the line free with a full size wrench first.
 
Willie B

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A crowfoot wrench MIGHT work.
You are correct, you need tools you never needed before, and they are EXPENSIVE. All of the difficult fittings are in a terribly cramped place.
 
boone

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Have you changed your fluid lately? Might be a good excuse to do it now and remove the hose. If you have, don't feel bad about draining it. I feel like I've refilled my tank about three times since I got my machine tackling hydraulic issues.
 
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