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Cold planer speed?

Jeckyl1920

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I've heard stories from the older guys that they used to modify the cold planers to spin faster.

We run a cat 262 with a cat 18" cold planer. I don't think it would hurt to have less torque if it spun faster. I feel our travel speed isn't limited by torque, but by the size of bite the teeth get into(most of the time). Seriously hard 3/4 base paves are another animal, but I still think it's the size of the bite, not the torque on the drum.

Does anyone know about this? Would it wear out the teeth too fast due to heat? Is it even possible without swapping out the hydro motor?
 

heymccall

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Is it genuinely in high flow?
I've got a 248b with a Bobcat 24" direct drive fast cut planer and a 262d3 with an Alitec 24" gear reduction planer.
I've never had, or seen, the need to "spin faster".
The fast cut Bobcat bounces around more, and certainly has less teeth on the drum, but the Alitec is the go to for efficiency. The cutting "torque" is definitely higher on the Alitec, even though it has significantly more teeth. I believe the torque is more important than the speed of the drum.
Somewhere in the mix I have an 1845C with an Alitec 18" planer, and, even there, i can't see where faster drum speed would help.

When I need more material gone faster, I hook up the Asphalt Zipper 48" unit to my wheel loader bucket. And, even there, it's torque, not drum speed, that appears to be important.
 

Jeckyl1920

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So, long story, but I will try to keep it short. I run with no creep so I can feel the grinder better. The other operator runs creep. More often than not, on long lines he will ride up trying to push it too fast. Well, let's just say every large area has to be ground twice, maybe 3 times, and we only have the one skid.

When he pushes faster, it has the torque to do it, but not the weight, so it bounces off the surface and gets grindings under the wings, causing the ride up. Even on softer surfaces.

I've noticed that if you dont give the barrel enough time to make it around, the teeth take bigger bites, causing bouncing. It becomes a balance every time. If the drum spins faster, it will in theory take less time to make it around, therefore taking smaller bites and bouncing less.

We can't mitigate by taking the counter weights off(more weight on the grinder), as we have to use the broom and bucket on the machine, and road a lot.

And yes, it is in high flow.
 

Jeckyl1920

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I think you are right. I'm guessing that these guys are talking about the old days when they didn't have high flow systems. I just haven't seen anything and was curious about the hearsay.

I think the other operator just doesn't get it, and when he gets bored, he does bad things, like try to grind flat surfaces while on hyd. tilt, and push the grinder faster than it can chew.

I'm not sure which teeth the owner buys. I would have to check the box at work. I would guess the cheapest or best deal he can find.
 
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