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Ronsii

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NobudyInParticular said:
First timer my foot. he's an experienced driver. (has lots to learn though. that wide open bouncing around will kill ya!)
Now I like a positive attitude...Fat Dan.
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Just going by what the equipment representative said about their operator... :)

On any job we have subbed at we would be asked to leave the job if any safety guys saw one of our operators running like that.... that's just how it works in the real world ;)
 
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NobudyInParticular said:
Let's see here, Didn't run over or into anything, not standing around chewing the fat or making excuses... (I can't because I need a loader, I can't because I don't have a dozer, I need a blade, and what is a "bucket")(Let me see here, I've operated a Komatsu D66s that had a bucket, a Cat 426 that had a front and a back bucket, an Excavator (CAT 235, JD backward control, ground hitting POS, CASE doesn't matter) that had a bucket, Skidsteers that had a bucket, an 80 Ton friction Crane that had a bucket and I've bailed water With a bucket) I'm a little confused by what "A bucket with a decent operator would be twice as fast" means. >shrudge< waaa waaa waaa my ass! the skidsteer was made to Work Hard! as is every piece of equipment, same for the poor hyd fluid that won't make it a week. Really!? (any substantiating documentation on this?) I suppose the coolant might get too hot also. Or... hey, here ya go... the grease can't take the shock when he slams into the material pile balls-out! Safety? If your on a job site where heavy equipment is operating you damn sure better stay out of the work area unless your authorized! its not a break room, Its a WORK ZONE! Pay attention! (anyone know what "balls out" means, or where the saying originated)? I'll educate ya... refers to the governor on a steam engine. Wide-open! Full throttle! Peddle to the metal... No excuses! Get the hell out of my way, I've got a job that needs doing! Would I hire him? Hell Ya Id hire him! He's my kinda guy! Only problem is, he won't be around long, that slamming up and down in the seat will destroy his back in just a few year's time. buy him a beer to numb the pain & give him another job.... my kinda guy...
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Your point of view on that operator is beyond pathetic.
Especially the part about educating us.
 
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You can still be running a piece of equipment "balls out" without beating the ever living sh!t out of it. I don't think the hydro fluid or antifreeze gives a rats ass how that guy runs it, but the boom, bucket, attachments, tracks, pumps, valves, and track drives probably would tell a different story....running "balls out" also doesn't have to mean you're slamming into piles and constantly making hard turns and spinning the tracks....spinning tracks/tires means nothing is getting done but wear and tear....smooth is fast, fast is smooth....I don't operate like that guy, but have been told by others that "you run that thing balls out".....
 
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I started and finished a little job, today. First hour was real easy, just moving about 15 tons of topsoil, that the cust had a "stone shooter" shoot, downhill, int his back yard, with the ASV RC-30, Then I graded out the former jungle, with the dirt bucket, and land leveler fer about an hour, then moved a 1000+lb hunka sandstone, from the middle of the back yard, to the back corner, about a 60-75' twist&push affair. Last hour or so, I went over the whole back yard, with the harley rake, All level and mow-able, no laser guidance needed, and drove home with cash in my pocket! No damage to me or MY machine...;) I'd a hated to see that guy tearing up MY machine!:eek:
 
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Tags said:
You can still be running a piece of equipment "balls out" without beating the ever living sh!t out of it. I don't think the hydro fluid or antifreeze gives a rats ass how that guy runs it, but the boom, bucket, attachments, tracks, pumps, valves, and track drives probably would tell a different story....running "balls out" also doesn't have to mean you're slamming into piles and constantly making hard turns and spinning the tracks....spinning tracks/tires means nothing is getting done but wear and tear....smooth is fast, fast is smooth....I don't operate like that guy, but have been told by others that "you run that thing balls out".....
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I have an extra son gets more done in a day than any other operator I've known. No GPS accessories, he uses his eye, and the seat of his pants. Organization is his secret weapon. No motion is ever wasted. He spreads sand in the electrical ditch, while reaching for the next scoop, he's leveling the land near the ditch. You never hear a clanging noise, mostly steady engine noise.
With a loader, a little pause when changing direction.
When his machines need something they get it.
 
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I found myself intrigued by the question at hand so I had to watch the first half of the video. Never seeing or using this type of equipment before I ended up watching other videos of this style of leveling equipment. It seems like his approach is better suited for a regular bucket. I have seen others use clam shell buckets quickly and effectively for leveling projects. This looks like he is ramming an expensive electronically controlled leveling blade into piles. No way it can work correctly with the front float wheel trapped/locked up in a dirt pile. Can you rent these? I have a large grading project in my back yard I need to complete. It will have to be grated properly for drainage, but might get the old one eye squint grade test. In all seriousness I might stretch a string and hold a level up on the air, 'Yep, looks good'
 
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Willie B said:
The old way was grade stakes set & marked by two people. Add or subtract material to get it close to grade without moving the stakes. Once material is close to where it needs to be, smooth it out.
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That's still how we do it. Mostly GPS for layout and elevation. One good thing about the GPS on a water and sewer job, you can bury all your structures in your inch and a quarter gravel, do your fine grade, then find them with the GPS after to raise them before you pave. Smaller jobs, they still use the survey level and rod.. I have never ran a machine with GPS control, but I have been told that it will pay for it self in a short time on large jobs.
 
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Looks nice! My limiting factor might be the amount of fill I can get. The whole area I am working is super low. I am cutting a driveway in and plan to steal all the topsoil from that area. Unfortunately it probably won't be enough. It's a good excuse to add a dump truck to the list of toys??
 
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