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Doosan DX140 LC vs Deere 330C LC

Michael Jenkins

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hey guys im considering either one of these excavators. im leaning toward the JD because it is so much bigger and stronger. the JD 330 has 6000hrs and the Doosan DX140 only has 3600hrs.

The Doosan looks brand new and i just feel like would have better resell value. but it is only 94HP and the JD 330 is 265HP.

What I need a excavator for is i just had a 100 acres clear cut and i need to start stumping it now and putting the stumps in piles. I considered just grinding the stumps down as all i want is a pasture for cattle, but i thought that getting pulling the stumps and burning them would be better.


Im just looking for some recommendations on what route you all think I should do. The Doosan DX140 is around 7k more than the larger JD330
 

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If you ain't gotta vote it around from job to job, maybe the deere is a better fit. More work accomplished with less abuse to the machine, kinda seems like a no-brainer. I don't know how many trees you have to contend with nor what kinda age they may have. Are either machines equipped with a thumb ?
 

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funewithfuel- yeah it would stay on my land until i was done with it and then sell it. I was thinking the bigger the better, and yes the JD330 has a thumb which makes me lean towards it even more.
Casefan13- yeah thats what i was thinking, less wear on the machine because its stronger.

I just thought maybe the doosan would bring more in a resale. but ill probably go with the JD330.
 

Michael Jenkins

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lumberjack, it is in good condition from the pictures. i plan to make the trip to look at it this week. Probably go with it as it has more power, Just the lower hours and great shape of the Doosan caught my eye.

But im sure getting the 3' oak stumps up would be an 4-5hr affair with the Doosan, and maybe a 30 min with the JD330.
 

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Just a thought, maybe find a local dealer or reputable independent to give her the once over. Could save you thousands or give you strong negotiating points
Or confirm she's a cream puff waiting for you to get to work
 

Michael Jenkins

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Funwithfuel, I honestly don’t know any mechanics that would be willing. I’m still trying to find a heavy duty mechanic that is independent because I can’t afford someone from a dealer to work on stuff.
So I guess I will have to take the risk.

lumberjack, I agree it would be longer than expected.
 

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I don't recall seeing any Doosan excavator having "good" resale value. Doosan excavators new are in the range of twenty to thirty percent less in price to any of the long established brands and their technology is usually at least one generation behind all the rest. That will always show up in the resale price. I don't see this as being any kind of a decision to make.
 

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John C. - I only say that because the same machines, DooSan with the same size and hours where I am are 20k more than the one I found. so I thought I could possibly run it for I needed it for and then resale around the same thing I paid for it.

That being said I went and ran the JD 330 it ran good, only thing I found in the hour I was running it was the left final drove got weak and didn’t want to work.

any idea on what that would cost to fix ???
 

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All I'm saying is that you are not likely to get you original purchase price money back when you are through with it and want to sell it. They are also not known as a trouble free machine and finding anyone to work on it might be worse than bringing the dealer out to work on the Deere.
 

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My personal opinion is the Doosan is probably higher priced because it this point with the economy and the ease of moving it around make it a more desirable machine. The 330 adds a whole new level of complication to get it moved and its size doesn’t lend itself to smaller jobs. I would go with the 330 if you’re just digging stumps and grading in relatively open areas, my opinion is you would never regret it....
 

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MarshallPowerGen- i guess you are right, shoot that didnt even cross my mind that i would have to have the dealers software to hookup to it. it is a 2007 so im sure i would have to.
John C.- i thought Doosan had turned into a pretty reputable machine?
Tags- Yeah moving a 15ton machine is a heck of lot easier than a 35ton machine. Ill probably go with the Deere.

Any of yall have any idea what difficulty fixing a final drive would be?? I operated the Deere for about an hour, ran pretty good, decently tight, BUT the left final drive seemed to get super weak. it would barely even drive forward after running it for that hour. I talked to a part house, the drive without the motor is $8,800 and with the motor is $9,900. Im gonna try and figure out how hard it would be to fix myself.
 

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If it rotates it probably isn't the problem. Final drive failure mode is to break up gears and stop moving. Likely weak travel problems in order: leaking seals in the swivel, internal leakage in the travel motor caused from worn or damaged components, weak hydraulic pump section. At the stated hours the most likely cause is the swivel seals. It's not a fun job but is usually the least expensive of the list.
 

Michael Jenkins

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John C.- the thing is the hour meter isnt counting. so i truly do not know how many hours are on this thing. I cant believe a digital meter isnt counting, its weird. So this thing could have 15,000 hours on it.
also i am completely new to this game, i only know some basic stuff about these machines. i have no clue how to even do a swivel seal.
But i will say the machine was pretty dry after me running it an hour, and some kind of work has been done to the hydraulic pump because the lines are color coordinated tags on them to match up where the went so i can see that about it.
Overall i was impressed with the Machine but i just want something that i hope to have the least amount of trouble out of it while i own it.
 

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You can swap hoses switching sides/circuits between final drives (left handle to right track and vice verse). If the problem switches sides you know it’s not the final drive.
 

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Micheal, i'm not trying to put a Bee in your bonnet or discourage you from buying this machine, travel motor issues, an hourmeter that's possibly not working, and the fact that you're not experienced with heavy equipment, I would walk away and go find something else. Of course this is just my opinion, but I'm sure there are plenty of large machines available at a decent price at this point in time. Having someone like an experience heavy equipment mechanic or a dealer mechanic look at a used machine for you would be well worth the thousand dollars it may cost to have done, $1000 now can save you tens of thousands later.... The bigger machines may be cheaper to buy than something you can move on a tag trailer, but the cost to repair all of them can be quite expensive....
 
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