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Sooooo... How's everyone's quarantine going?
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Ronsii
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Well... be careful where you grasp her<still trying to grasp woman here that says shes my wife
you might end up in ICU!!!!
John C.
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I don't think anything will go back to normal until most everyone has had the disease and survived, or a vaccine is made that protects everyone from the disease. No one is immune, most only get a little sick but many get sick and die. Right now no one knows if there are long term effects and a vaccine is only a pipe dream. We are told to stay home not to keep us from getting the disease, but instead to keep from overwhelming out health care system. So what happens in July or August if only 30% of the country has gotten and survived the disease? Is our government going to take the brakes off and tell everyone to go forth and mingle? You still have 70% of the population at risk. How many people can our health care system handle at one time?
I think that if you want your business or livelihood to survive this, you are going to have to put on your thinking cap and find a new way of accomplishing it without involving a lot of close quarters communication with your people. The world, as we know it, was changed in January and February of this year.
I think that if you want your business or livelihood to survive this, you are going to have to put on your thinking cap and find a new way of accomplishing it without involving a lot of close quarters communication with your people. The world, as we know it, was changed in January and February of this year.
seatwarmer
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John,
I have telling people that the world has changed a hellofalot the past few months and most are like No, we will go back to the old ways as before. For example in Enterprise Computer Hardware it used to be 5 to 10 bodies on site to build and commission solutions, now it down to 1 body on site to do the physical unpacking, cabling, power on and getting the equipment on a network. From there on it is all remote/virtual access, meetings etc. Even companies that were totally against working from home if possible are weighing their options. I understand that construction is a totally other ball game, but at some stage the fewer bodies on site required will be the norm. How it is going possible I don't know. Although I can not think how I will be able to operate a machine remotely without the "arse on seat" sensor.
I have telling people that the world has changed a hellofalot the past few months and most are like No, we will go back to the old ways as before. For example in Enterprise Computer Hardware it used to be 5 to 10 bodies on site to build and commission solutions, now it down to 1 body on site to do the physical unpacking, cabling, power on and getting the equipment on a network. From there on it is all remote/virtual access, meetings etc. Even companies that were totally against working from home if possible are weighing their options. I understand that construction is a totally other ball game, but at some stage the fewer bodies on site required will be the norm. How it is going possible I don't know. Although I can not think how I will be able to operate a machine remotely without the "arse on seat" sensor.
boaterri
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Changed the filters and oil on the generator yesterday. Starting on mounting the solar panels today.
cuttin edge
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Good luck trying to get everyone to take a vaccine. The anti establishments will have a field day with that one. Read that if you take it, to let your fever run it's course as it helps fight it off. I thought that was the purpose of a fever, but anyway. keep hydrated, and try to take regular deep breaths to keep from getting pnemonua.
Nige
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IMHO this thing will have long run its course before the medical profession comes up with a vaccine. The best estimate right now seems to be mid-2021, and even that might be optimistic.
Better to let everyone get infected and recover (or not, as the case may be), the quicker the better, and then the sooner that herd immunity kicks in.
Better to let everyone get infected and recover (or not, as the case may be), the quicker the better, and then the sooner that herd immunity kicks in.
Truck Shop
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I believe-{ not trying to be a smart a$$} that I stated earlier in this thread {It's come home and it's come home to roost}. This day and age society has a tendency of taking damn near
everything for granted. In 2005-long before I was on this forum I had been stating the U.S. is in for a crash because of the bad paper and phony stock market values. Ever one but
one person that I said that to told me I was full of sh!t. I pulled my resources in and stood back and watched and noted it was not I that was full of sh!t but everyone else that wasn't
willing to look at what was happening. For years I was told there will never be another crash like 1929 because the government won't let it happen. This pandemic has been waiting
in the wings off stage for years and years. Many books have been written about this very item and the calamity that would ensue in modern times. In the Seattle area as well as other
major populated areas there have been zero hospitals built in the last 20 years and population climbing. Reason-one to two day out patient surgeries-no long stays-more open beds.
Then you have a catastrophe like this you not only don't have enough beds and equipment there isn't enough health care people to go around-------It has to do with the modern
business philosophy which has crept it's way into everyone's lives.-----------DO MORE WITH LESS.---Well it's here so get use to doing a fine job with less toilet paper, cleaning supplies,
some foods and most of all the hardship everyone will experience one way or another.
And I really don't like sounding like a fatalist but the truth is the truth.
everything for granted. In 2005-long before I was on this forum I had been stating the U.S. is in for a crash because of the bad paper and phony stock market values. Ever one but
one person that I said that to told me I was full of sh!t. I pulled my resources in and stood back and watched and noted it was not I that was full of sh!t but everyone else that wasn't
willing to look at what was happening. For years I was told there will never be another crash like 1929 because the government won't let it happen. This pandemic has been waiting
in the wings off stage for years and years. Many books have been written about this very item and the calamity that would ensue in modern times. In the Seattle area as well as other
major populated areas there have been zero hospitals built in the last 20 years and population climbing. Reason-one to two day out patient surgeries-no long stays-more open beds.
Then you have a catastrophe like this you not only don't have enough beds and equipment there isn't enough health care people to go around-------It has to do with the modern
business philosophy which has crept it's way into everyone's lives.-----------DO MORE WITH LESS.---Well it's here so get use to doing a fine job with less toilet paper, cleaning supplies,
some foods and most of all the hardship everyone will experience one way or another.
And I really don't like sounding like a fatalist but the truth is the truth.
Mother Deuce
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I can tell you this if I ever hear a news story about more than 5 Chinese people with a fever. I am selling everything I own and buying a hole in the ground. Then I am jumping in and pulling it in behind me.
DMiller
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Have felt that way at least as long.
Still working here, 3 days last week and 4 days this week. Talked to one customer today, they are not changing plans because of this still want to build as soon as permits are done. I'm hoping permits aren't delayed too much that is really what will stop my work. They are still going ahead with having the tenants move out end of april and demo the house right after. Nice part I like is residential demolition is considered essential, so long as a dump is open I will still be working some even if they shut down everything else.
Would like for this to be over soon instead of long drawn out half way. But as long as not shut down for more then 2 months i'm not worried I have enough to pay everything. Stocked up on parts to do all repairs and maintenance on everything so I will be busy for a month with that easily. And my yard will never be cleaner pretty soon with the extra time!
Would like for this to be over soon instead of long drawn out half way. But as long as not shut down for more then 2 months i'm not worried I have enough to pay everything. Stocked up on parts to do all repairs and maintenance on everything so I will be busy for a month with that easily. And my yard will never be cleaner pretty soon with the extra time!
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You said a mouthful when you said we are way under on having enough hospital beds. Many hospitals increased there capacities for serving patients but never had a need to add beds. In the last 30 years is we went from 250 bed hospitals for a dozen operating rooms and adjacent infrastructure to about 50 beds for the same number of surgical suites and infrastructure dependent on what the facility specialized in. And it takes a pretty decent surgery now to even make the OR. Most small stuff happen in the procedure rooms with a local antithesis. When I retired 5-1/2 years ago we were building lots of new midsize hospitals at 29 beds maximum. Over that the licensing's and staffing guidelines change and most communities could not afford it.
Tugger2
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Here in BC we have spent a generation or more killing good industry for clean non contributive service industries aka. tourism. All that stuff has hit the wall now. Solid productive industry can keep people working thru this mess .. 10 years ago i had an industrial waterfront site with 15 employees doing marine construction and whatever kind of industrial work we could find. We could work through this with precautions, but its tough for restaurants and cruise ships. Today theres a bike path and trees planted on our old site and everyone though it was wonderful to get rid of that industrial eyesore.
mitch504
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Yep, same here, I work in the woods, and on farms by myself or maybe see one person every other day. My wife has been at Wal-mart 29 years, I figure we will get it, hopefully just stay home and feel like hammered feces for a week, and not give it to any of the high-risk people we know.
mitch504
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Learned something new today. When I work for the SC DNR, I email my invoice to the director of the division involved, he makes sure all my 'i's are dotted and my 't's are crossed, then he tells me to mail it in for payment, then approves it and sends it the check writers. This way I don't mail in an error, and then I have to go through a correction process,
I emailed my invoice and got an email back that he is working from home, and will send my invoice for payment once he gets back in the office!!
No guess when. If it's not soon, I will complain.
I emailed my invoice and got an email back that he is working from home, and will send my invoice for payment once he gets back in the office!!
No guess when. If it's not soon, I will complain.
DMiller
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Ah yes, bureaucracy survives!
Are trying that same eliminate industry here but then argue of how to raise taxes as cannot get enough off service sector
Then the fights start
We have the KATY (old MKT) RR trail here sees some use but not enough to justify the expenses so gets left to nature in the more remote areas
Are several groups trying the same for the old Rock Island ROW south of here quoting economic Boon ignoring all associated expenses
Pretty certain no budget for it any time soon
Are trying that same eliminate industry here but then argue of how to raise taxes as cannot get enough off service sector
Then the fights start
We have the KATY (old MKT) RR trail here sees some use but not enough to justify the expenses so gets left to nature in the more remote areas
Are several groups trying the same for the old Rock Island ROW south of here quoting economic Boon ignoring all associated expenses
Pretty certain no budget for it any time soon
terex herder
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If you can work from home, who needs high priced office space? If you can do your job from home via the internet, Patel can do your job from his home in Mumbai or Bangalore. If we can teach students remotely, why do we need so many teachers? The very best teachers can reach thousands of students, everyone else becomes a minder. Same thing for colleges, why do we need multi-billion dollar campuses for internet classes?
Patel isn't going to remotely run a blade or hoe, but the buildings we build may become obsolete.
Patel isn't going to remotely run a blade or hoe, but the buildings we build may become obsolete.
cuttin edge
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First case of C19 about 20 miles from here. It's getting closer.....That community , a bunch of bible pounders.... not that I begrudge anyone their faith, but like my father said "They're like cats, you know they're doing it, but you can't catch them." It will spread like crazy, because even though they closed the churches, they all go to each other's homes and prey together. Like that well dressed man on the radio says, " the only people that should be in your house are the people that live there. Not your neighbors, not your best friends, not your brother, just you."
Tugger2
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Here on Vancouver Island theres a persistant movement to turn the E&N Railway into a bike path ,wasting grade and infrastructure thats already in place and worth millions.
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Then there's that bible thumper in Florida they arrested for holding services just the other day!
Maybe we should just let them all get together and then set up a perimeter around them! Deliver food and other supplies but not let them back out till they are all "cured"
Maybe we should just let them all get together and then set up a perimeter around them! Deliver food and other supplies but not let them back out till they are all "cured"